To: SeekAndFind; Steely Tom; Common Sense 101; itssme; MeshugeMikey; Enlightened1; Jane Long; ...
CWII Spark — Because utterly denying state soverignty will go over
so well. [/sarc]
Do the States really believe they could win in a Federal court???? It would actually be very easy to do so, essentially causing the federal judge to crap his pants, if they did it a certain way:
- Declare a state of invasion.
- Because of #1, call up the National Guard to secure the border, with lethal force authorized. (Even encouraged.)
- Because of #1, call up the unorganized militia to support/augment the NG in #2, this lends evidence to the enormity of the situation.
- Demand that US Constitution, Art 4, Sec 4 be honored.
- Use #1, #2, & #3 as evidence for the dire need of #4; this forces FedGov to do one of three things:
- Give Support
This is by far the least likely to happen as it would be egg on the faces of the open borders bloc of political elite. - [Attempt to] Do Nothing
This is by far the most likely course of action, considering the above; however, the refusal to honor Art 4 sec 4 will further erode respect for Fedgov; it could also be used as a basis for charging federal agents/employees/politicians with Treason under the States's own Constitutions. [Most States have a Treason section defining Treason against the State.] - Attack the State
This can be done in the functions of any of the three branches; and no matter the avenue is Treason by the US Constitution:
- Judicial
The courts declare the states have no authority to defend themselves — fits the definition of giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the states: IOW, definitionally Treason. - Legislative
Pass laws forbidding State Defense, Declare Peace
, pass amnesty, cut National Guard funding, etc — also fits the definition of giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the several states; note as well that the legislature's immunity to arrest is not proof against Treason. - Executive
Moving against the States militarily, attempting [mass] arrests, attempting arrests of key people — all enemy action and fitting the definition of treason.
- Because of the enormity of #5, federal judges would be wary of being caught in Treason charges either federal or state.
- If a judge is not weary, he will add to the growing rejection of the federal government; if that happens then he loses his power and privileged status.
There you have it, in seven points, how this whole thing could be used to gut a huge portion of the federal government.
17 posted on
07/31/2014 9:34:44 AM PDT by
OneWingedShark
(Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
To: OneWingedShark
The problem with that is that a federal judge can pretty much do anything they want whether the laws allows them to do so or not.
The congress already has the power right now to shut Obama down via denying funding to anything he wants to do, but instead congress funds everything and then some.
They are complicit with the tyrant.
19 posted on
07/31/2014 10:52:34 AM PDT by
chris37
(heartless)
To: OneWingedShark
I’m ready to see it... long over due.
20 posted on
07/31/2014 12:09:39 PM PDT by
Common Sense 101
(Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
To: OneWingedShark
Great work! Thanks!
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FYI:
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22 posted on
07/31/2014 12:12:32 PM PDT by
Graewoulf
(Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
To: OneWingedShark
I would want the Red State Governors to go even further.
Form the Red States Association (RSA). The first thing to do is to block all taxes being sent to D.C. and put the money in impound accounts. Declare that they not recognize Congressional or Presidential Amnesty to all illegal aliens who have come into this country since 2000.
Inform the Federal Government and the Federal Courts that out of dire necessity, the RSA will form a mutual law enforcement and border enforcement organization to guard the border, sea ports and airports, and to apprehend, detain, and deport all illegal aliens, men, women, and children, as it is provable that Obama has clearly abandoned his duty to protect the States, and the Federal Courts have clearly supported him. The RSA will use impounded money to pay for these efforts to restore the borders and enhance the safety of U.S. citizens.
The RSA will make it a policy that State, County, and City peace officers must be notified before any Federal Officer makes an arrest or serves a warrant, and the State AG, and all County Public Defenders and City Attorneys MUST be informed of any further surveillance of citizens, approval must be granted by the in the jurisdiction of the surveillance activity.
The RSA will order the immediate expulsion of all Federal Agencies which have enacted policies detrimental to the economies of the RSA, and the freedoms of its citizens. The IRS and the EPA will be the first two agencies to be expelled.
The RSA will cease to send Senators and Congressmen to Washington D.C. and will no longer participate in the perversions of the U.S. Constitution regarding the First, Second, Fourth, and Fifth Amendments.
25 posted on
07/31/2014 1:33:27 PM PDT by
Enterprise
("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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