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To: Cold Heat
the commercial jet was shot down specifically to blame the Russians for it and cause a great debate for what purpose?

Who has benefited from this shoot down. The Russians no, The separatist no, the Ukrainians yes.

106 posted on 07/30/2014 11:53:23 AM PDT by McGruff (I don't trust the Russians but I don't trust the Ukrainians either.)
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To: McGruff

Ummmmm.....yeah, Russia cannot benefit from shooting down ANOTHER commercial airliner, and nor can their proxy’s, the separatists.

So therefore, it is the Kiev governments fault?

Nice leap of logic, but it won’t fly.


108 posted on 07/30/2014 12:05:31 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: McGruff

Another thing McGruff...

If you look at the vector and altitude that the plane was travelling, it was leaving the area to the South East and was obviously not part of the engagements on the ground in the Ukraine. Logically, it could not have been relevant.

Therefore it was a accidental shootdown and following leads like who benefits and the usual “follow the money” arguments, do not seem to have any bearing on it.

Yet for some reason, (Putin’s reputation) some are trying very hard to inject stuff into this that won’t fit.


109 posted on 07/30/2014 12:16:10 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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