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To: stanne
Taking pictures or video of facilities, buildings or infrastructure in a manner that would arouse suspicion in a reasonable person.

It is exactly that idea that I was commenting on. Contrary to the opinion of many who would have us live in a police state, photography is not a crime. Nor is it probable cause for a Terry stop.

I remember hearing horror stories growing up about people travelling in the Soviet Union being harrassed or arrested for the "crime" of photography. We were told that this is what happens in totalitarian countries. The state has become so powerful and paranoid that it is afraid of mere photography.

Sadly there are many in this country who would support such a law here. Fortunately it hasn't passed yet, because if it did I'd have to add it to my "commit at least one felony a day" habit.

 

127 posted on 07/30/2014 7:59:08 AM PDT by zeugma (It is time for us to start playing cowboys and muslims for real now.)
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Yes the paranoid state of looking at the actions of even a would be terrorist as most allowable lest we live under the poet of the city police are more apparent here than ever.

That I am not suggesting that doesn’t matter at all

Here’s the scenario that should have occurred and if it did the police had better be in trouble over it and SAPD is not known as militant and they do indeed have drug cartel activity do deal with I will not argue about that- they had a gang mess in the early 90s and cleaned it up

This guy should have, like anyone even prior to 9 11, gone to the manager the security or any receptionist and told them what he was doing and that’s not even with a property deed or lease, which would have helped. If that’s what did happen it better be major trouble for the Leo

Look at a map. This is the entrance to a major international resort

No one here claims to remember post 9 11 vigilance of civilians to look for suspicious activity. But likely someone in the building asked the cops to check out (not to be confused with beat up) the random guy taking pictures of the building

We don’t know for a fact that he didn’t get very weird when the cops got there, maybe he didn’t, or for a fact that he has a lease

This, in the much and widely, here, denied vacinity of the border from which much gang and cartel activity is reported

Maybe the cops were driving by and saw him asked him what the deal was and he got weird, maybe he was a fine gentleman and they wanted to jump him anyway that’s feasible

If he had said, ‘hey I checked with the manager, I have a lease here, on this private property and am taking photos for advertising’ which is what seems so fascist to people here but just polite to only me, and then the cops jumped him Then no.

But on this forum, where the theme is to not trust the media, this journalist out to sell books on his ‘police state is taking away your freedoms’ book, which is likely based on facts, there is no questioning of the story. It just turns into an abuse fest

And it is very disconcerting to find such lack of curiosity. So I am out


128 posted on 07/30/2014 8:33:36 AM PDT by stanne
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