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11th Circuit: Constitutional to Bar Doctors from Asking Patients About Firearm Ownership
Breitbart's Big Government ^ | July 28, 2014 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 07/29/2014 2:15:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On July 25 the United States Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit "eliminated the injunction" against the enforcement of Florida's "gun gag" law, which restricts doctors from asking patients if they own a firearm unless asking is necessary to a patient's treatment.

According to Law360.com, the 11th Circuit ruled that barring doctors from asking about firearms "doesn't violate the First Amendment."

Florida Governor Rick Scott (R) signed the NRA-backed "gun gag" legislation in 2011. Suit was brought against the State of Florida over the law by "the Florida chapters of the American Academies of Pediatrics and American College of Physicians along with a number of other groups and the anti-gun community."(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; florida; guncontrol; gungrabbers; medicine; rickscott; surveillance
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I give up.

It looks like just about EVERYONE here will get Block 3 checked off, with Block 3 meaning “likely owns guns, and is belligerent or hostile”.

Block 2 is: “owns guns, but appears to understand the responsibilities of ownership”. You get that if you admit to having guns, but politely answer all questions.

Block 1 is: “appears to not own guns and answered question politely”. You get that mark, of course, if you respectfully say no.

I prefer to be classified as Block 1, in case I ever need to call the police.


41 posted on 07/29/2014 6:52:18 PM PDT by BobL
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To: scouter

“For example, you can’t ask someone in a job interview if they’re married, or if they have kids, or what their religion is.”

...and one can make a MUCH STRONGER case that these above questions are relevant regarding how the person will perform on the job - then knowing whether the child might get sick, just because a gun is in the house.


42 posted on 07/29/2014 6:56:14 PM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


43 posted on 07/29/2014 6:58:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks, I had seen that before...believe me it’s engraved in my soul.


44 posted on 07/29/2014 7:04:20 PM PDT by BobL
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To: cuban leaf

“Actually, that is no true. It protects speech. It has been used by pornographers to defend their material.”

Maybe, but if that were the case, as others posted here (in effect), then realtors could say something like “blacks not welcome” in their listings. Free speech died at least 50 years ago in the US...in some cases for the better (as above), and in many cases for the worse.

...if we’re going to regulate speech, which of course we do, then we might as well benefit from it too.


45 posted on 07/29/2014 7:06:51 PM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

...if we’re going to regulate speech, which of course we do, then we might as well benefit from it too


I disagree.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke

He has been proven right.


46 posted on 07/29/2014 7:21:03 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: cuban leaf

“I disagree.”

I guess we’ll disagree...I just prefer my kids not be interrogated by their doctor regarding guns (which did happen here, about 10 years ago).


47 posted on 07/29/2014 7:26:37 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Farmer Dean
Good.I wouldn’t answer any questions like that anyway.

Not answering, is still answering what they really want to know. They are making lists and checking them twice to make sure they don't miss anyone.

48 posted on 07/30/2014 1:32:56 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: cuban leaf; scouter
For example, you can’t ask someone in a job interview if they’re married,

They can't ask how old you are either, but they can ask when you graduated from High School.

49 posted on 07/30/2014 1:40:10 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: BobL

So?


50 posted on 07/30/2014 5:39:57 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: scouter
For example, you can't ask someone in a job interview if they're married, or if they have kids, or what their religion is.

Why?

51 posted on 07/30/2014 5:40:34 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: itsahoot

I’m 60 but look about 50. I’m a contractor in IT. I’ve actually shaved ten years off my early resume.


52 posted on 07/30/2014 5:55:04 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: WayneS
For example, you can't ask someone in a job interview if they're married, or if they have kids, or what their religion is.

Why?

To prevent unjust discrimination based on those factors, because it should be irrelevant to whether or not they can do the job or how much you would pay them.

An employer, for example, might believe that married women are likely to get pregnant and have to take maternity leave, disrupting their operations. Or they may want to pay a married woman less because supposedly her husband is the main bread winner. Or a family may cost more on the company insurance plan than an individual. Or a member of a particular religion might have to take certain days off. Or you just might not like members of a particular religion and don't want to hire them for that reason alone.

53 posted on 07/30/2014 6:58:20 AM PDT by scouter
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To: scouter

Understood, but where have you seen any TRUE logic vs. Constitution from the SCOTUS? (sadly NOT /s)


54 posted on 07/30/2014 8:58:32 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: WayneS

...you DO NOT want to find out.


55 posted on 07/30/2014 3:29:20 PM PDT by BobL
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To: scouter

Okay. That’s fine for government jobs financed by tax dollars.

But is a private employer a private employer, or not?


56 posted on 07/31/2014 10:14:40 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: WayneS
Okay. That’s fine for government jobs financed by tax dollars.

But is a private employer a private employer, or not?

I'm not defending it. I'm just giving the rationale. It's not completely off base.

However, I do think private employers should have a whole lot more leeway than the government, with the possible exception of for-profit government contractors. If people don't like the fact that a particular private company doesn't hire married women, for example, then they don't have to patronize them, or they can go into competition with them and hire married women. But when we talk about government employers, then I think it really does become a civil rights issue. And since for-profit government contractors are being paid by the taxpayer, I think they should probably be treated like the government in these matters.

57 posted on 07/31/2014 10:31:17 AM PDT by scouter
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To: scouter

Works for me.


58 posted on 07/31/2014 2:32:11 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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