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Gangs, guns and Judas Priest: the secret history of a US-inflicted border crisis
The Guardian ^ | July 23, 2014 06:00 | Michael Paarlberg

Posted on 07/26/2014 7:20:36 PM PDT by blueplum

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cool title, twisted logic, since I'm pretty sure the original Mexican gangs came to the USA as existing gangs already, but I was most interested in that last paragraph about the billboards...?
1 posted on 07/26/2014 7:20:36 PM PDT by blueplum
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2 posted on 07/26/2014 7:23:56 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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The Guardian toes the liberal line as usual.


3 posted on 07/26/2014 7:24:16 PM PDT by jiggyboy
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“Both major gangs now plaguing the region originated in Los Angeles.”

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/crap.wav


4 posted on 07/26/2014 7:25:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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That’s certainly not the history of MS13 I remember from 20 or so years back.


5 posted on 07/26/2014 7:36:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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I remember a 60 minutes expose about MS13 from better than 20 years ago. It was a long time ago but I’m pretty sure MS13 started as El Salvadoran guerrilla fighters. When the war ended, they turned to extortion, murder and terror.

They did things like stopping a bus on a country road and killing all but one person to take a message to the surrounding villages that MS13 was in control.


6 posted on 07/26/2014 7:46:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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I agree. I almost put a [Barf] tag on the title, but I didn’t want folks to pass it up for that and miss the billboards reference.


7 posted on 07/26/2014 7:48:25 PM PDT by blueplum
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Plus there’s the fact that Judas Priest was white boy metal and Rob Halford has always been a flaming homosexual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU


8 posted on 07/26/2014 7:57:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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Did you ever consider that same fence can be used to keep you in? The proper solution is to stop the dual demand side of employers seeking to hire and governments seeking to provide benefits to illegal immigrants.


9 posted on 07/26/2014 7:58:52 PM PDT by fso301
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I don’t know much about the Mexican ‘mara’ gang either. Or even if the Judas Priest reference is correct! El Salvadorian metal heads? whod’a thunk?


10 posted on 07/26/2014 8:08:40 PM PDT by blueplum
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Did you ever consider that same fence can be used to keep you in?

I'll take my chances.
11 posted on 07/26/2014 8:09:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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Every latin American gang I’ve ever seen was big on the whole latin identity/separatist crap and wouldn’t be caught dead listening to gringo music.


12 posted on 07/26/2014 8:17:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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stupid author......blame the US is always the lefts go to argument. The fact that corruption and generations of thugocracies ruining countries is never mentioned. They are not free. There is no liberty in these third world countries. Unfortunately the left in this country thought that if they threw money at them, these countries would use it to improve the lives of their citizens. It NEVER happened and NEVER will


13 posted on 07/26/2014 8:26:04 PM PDT by Nifster
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we throw money at them, they want more.
They have a drug problem and poverty problem, we go spend millions fighting the drug war and in USAID, and they hate us anyway
We export criminals who aren’t here legally, and the left complains we are too harsh (and note how they stick ‘drunk driving’ with petty theft, as if it’s no big deal):
“a law that ratcheted up deportations of immigrants with criminal records – including legal residents – by making things like drunk driving and petty theft deportable offenses”
as if drunk driving and theft aren’t deportable offenses in their own countries


14 posted on 07/26/2014 8:50:49 PM PDT by blueplum
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I guess MS-13 is Hell Bent for Leather.


15 posted on 07/26/2014 8:52:47 PM PDT by dfwgator
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true words


16 posted on 07/26/2014 9:03:49 PM PDT by Nifster
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Hence gates were invented multiple mellenia ago.


17 posted on 07/26/2014 9:04:31 PM PDT by Paladin2
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Re: Did you ever consider that same fence can be used to keep you in?

fso301 and the "cripple" both make good points; but in a pinch, I'd fly you over the fence! Really, if it came to it, ways could be found. Remember. if we built the fence it would be indicitive of sound leadership.

18 posted on 07/26/2014 9:05:16 PM PDT by Ace's Dad (Proud grandpa of a "Brit Chick" named Poppy Loucks (Call sign "Popsickle")
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Sure it occurred to me. But I’m not fleeing from my government. If it turns tyrant, I and millions of others plan to TAKE THEM OUT. By force, if it comes to that.

I don’t plan to run away, if things get rough. Do you?

If anything, it will be handy to trap our traitors against that fence, when it’s time to round them up and take care of them once and for all.


19 posted on 07/26/2014 9:18:11 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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See 19.


20 posted on 07/26/2014 9:19:02 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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