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To: SeekAndFind

Spin Spin Spin. The truth is that Obama, Inc. is in deep shock about the growing rumble of impeachment. As Sarah said, “If Obama is not impeachable no one is.”


2 posted on 07/26/2014 6:39:13 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

No way. Just like the government shutdown the public can’t stand these tactics. We need to win ....as in elections.


5 posted on 07/26/2014 6:56:05 AM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Louis Foxwell

Whether Obama deserves to be impeached is not the question.

Constitutionally -— HE DESERVES TO BE.

Whether the process will succeed or not is another question.

Even if Republicans took over the Senate and say won 10 additional seats ( unlikely but let’s just say they will for argument’s sake ), they’ll only have 55 Senate seats.

This of course assumes that ALL 55 Republicans will UNITED to impeach Obama. And even then, you’ll need to convince another 12 Democrats to come along (good luck with that).

And I’m not even sure if this will fly politically in a country as divided as ours with nearly 47% on some kind of welfare.

So, constitutionally, YES, Obama should be impeached. Practically, NO, it won’t work.


7 posted on 07/26/2014 7:02:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

“The truth is that Obama, Inc. is in deep shock about the growing rumble of impeachment.”

I think that is certainly true in the world of traditional political logic. But his stance on illegal immigration is totally illogical in the near term political sense for his party. He seems to have embraced total anarchy and chaos for the nation and the world. Obama is the type of person who will become dangerous when he senses he is boxed in. The box is the upcoming November elections. 2014 is the year that will determine if the United States survives in its traditional form.


8 posted on 07/26/2014 7:03:42 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Louis Foxwell

Disagree. Three (good) polls came out a couple of days ago running about 65-70% AGAINST impeachment. (It all kinda depended on how the questions were worded and what questions went before). One was even Fox News.

All this is is a tactic to get OUR base to vote in Nov. The problem is, it motivates the Dim base as well, is one Hell of a fundraiser, and makes us look like kooks.

We need to pick and choose. If you throw everything at the wall all you get is a wall of poop and last time I checked no one is a fan of walls of poop.

When I tried big cases we really narrowed our focus. A bad approach whether it is in the courtroom or politics or even war is thinking that throwing everything at it wins. It almost never does. And last time I checked, the GOP EVEN if they get the Senate back in 2014, is in some real trouble in America. And while we are Conservatives (and not really the GOP) as they go down, so do we.

This is yet another mistake and obfuscates real issues we could and should be discussing. Politics isn’t about making your little group feel good, it’s about winning elections. Last I checked, the GOP fails at that rather spectacularly.


29 posted on 07/26/2014 7:44:56 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Louis Foxwell

Importantly, the Republicans are keeping their strategy close to their chest, which is a good ploy, because it creates an air in the WH that their next big power grab scheme may be “the straw that breaks the camel’s back.”

Add to that a factor that nobody has yet considered: the SCOTUS. They have long been unfriendly to Obama, because he sneered at and derided them during a SOTU address. But they hold the key to tearing his agenda apart.

Right now, everyone is focused on the federal court Obamacare decision about giving subsidies. But soon, Boehner can sue Obama, about his abuse of power, and this will quickly go right to the SCOTUS as well.

In the year 1810, the Supreme Court decided the Marbury v. Madison case, which did several important things. Lesser known is that the court issued a “Writ of Mandamus” to the president, ordering him to comply. The president refused.

This established that the Supreme Court *cannot* force the president to act. However, they most certainly *can* make him stop acting, by invalidating what he orders the executive branch to do.

And if anyone in the executive branch decides to obey Obama instead of the Supreme Court, they are in contempt of the Supreme Court, which may order them arrested.

The only time the SCOTUS has ever sat as a trial court for contempt was in 1906, with United States v. Shipp. But if bureaucrats despised them, I don’t hesitate to think that the SCOTUS would kick seven bells out of them.

Importantly, the president cannot pardon such contempt citations, nor can he prevent the arrest or jailing of such persons.


33 posted on 07/26/2014 9:00:25 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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