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To: Cold Heat

Actually, they didn’t steal the plans for the B-29. I read about this story. A B-29 was flying over their territory on a mission and had to make an emergency landing. The crew was treated well and released. They kept the bomber (despite our requests to give it back) and reverse-engineered it. That’s why the first Soviet nuclear-capable bomber is a carbon-coy of the B-29.

Gunfire exchanged over the border? Really? I think the Germans (certainly on the West side) would’ve frowned on that most assiduously.


146 posted on 07/26/2014 2:46:56 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: hoagy62

coy = copy

I’m tired...going to bed.


147 posted on 07/26/2014 2:47:54 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: hoagy62

They were not Germans...on the east side..

Most of them belonged to a armored Tank battalion in the sector I was in.


149 posted on 07/26/2014 2:52:51 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: hoagy62

Hoagy I don’t have it at my fingertips...Given time I can go back into some documentaries on WWII and in it will be the agents names and other involved people. they had a extensive spy ring.

I just remember the generalities of it. the specifics I can find, if you are interested.


151 posted on 07/26/2014 3:00:33 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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OK......Here is the story about the planes, there were three of them, but the US was convinced and rightfully so that the Russians would not be able to reverse engineer the complicated craft and they actually were right.

Russian needed the plans.

trying to recall all of this from my memory, but they had to burn one of their best spy's who happened to work at the Boeing plant in Kansas, I believe.

He got into the filing cabinets, and took them. it was a huge pile of blueprints that he managed to get out of the plant and into his car. They made their way to the fatherland with the agent.

This did not solve all of Russia's issues build the plane, but most of them. The remaining issues were related to the machinery needed to make the parts.

http://www.b-29s-over-korea.com/shortstories/russianclone.htm

154 posted on 07/26/2014 3:15:50 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: hoagy62

OK...I have it for you.

It was in 1945.

The agent in charge or handler was Mikail Gorshkov.

He recruited a Italian who’s brother worked for Boeing at a B-29 assembly line in Brazil.

The brother took the plans and gave them to the agent who brought them to Gorshkov. The newly built TU4 became a reality shortly thereafter just before the Russian bomb was tested (which was also a copy of ours.)

Gorshkov was still alive and interviewed for this documentary, made in the 1990s.

I have it on VCR tapes but you can still find the documentary and I believe HULU has it. It is called “The secrets of War”. it is narrated by Charlton Heston and has this information and a great deal more as it was compiled shortly after the wall came down and the Russian files were opened up to a great degree regarding WWII.

I think you might find it interesting.

There are some 64 hours of tape, and this info comes from episode 33. “titled....”The hunt for atomic Secrets”


155 posted on 07/26/2014 4:07:16 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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