[tcrlaf]

“On the other hand Su-25 is too tough to get downed with a single manpad hit.”

Well, as we have seen in Ukraine several times now, that isn’t true....

[wetphoenix]

~Well, as we have seen in Ukraine several times now, that isn’t true....~

Russian Su-25 “46 red” damaged by MANPAD hit over Georgia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxAmRrdDOuk

MANPADs are relatively weak and for that reason not that much effective against twin-engine, let alone armored aircraft.

It would track an engine exhaust and destroy one engine, but Su-25 can get back home on one engine left.

[McGruff]

Troops may not fire nor conduct military ops in 40km #MH17 crash zone - Poroshenko http://on.rt.com/1q9y34

Must have been a humanitarian mission they were on.