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To: Lakeshark; xzins
I am as anti amnesty as you, and suspect XZINS is as well. It is important Not to exaggerate the records and statements of Walker and Perry just to give Cruz a boost, as he hasn’t focused on this issue nearly as much as he should have either. It’s most important we not do the things that the ex poster pissant did when he couldn’t stop people from choosing Palin as their favorite.

Then we have a disagreement on this issue, since I am not exaggerating anyone's record on this issue and I have only posted their records.

Perry has an extensive record of Open-Border/Pro-Amnesty behavior as I posted up thread. Walker only let his guard down once, but it was extremely telling.

I don't doubt that both of you are as Anti-Amnesty as I am.

However, be careful that you completely vet, in your own mind, each of the candidates on this issue.

GWB downplayed this in the primaries leading to the 2000 election. And look how bad he was on this issue.

Perry, given the proof I have posted up-thread, is just as bad.

Read through that post Lakeshark and see if you don't agree.

I believe that Walker is just as bad on this issue as well given his statements in the youtube I have posted regularly, but there is not much proof otherwise. On most other things, with the exception of soft-peddling social issues and opting for the false solution of States Rights where gay marriage is concerned, he is great. But those two things in combination with his weakness on the Amnesty issue is telling.
97 posted on 07/22/2014 2:57:20 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie; Lakeshark

My sense is that the primaries will determine the republican candidate. The candidate with the most delegates will again be the nominee. We will know pretty early whether: (1) Cruz will even run, and (2) whether his opponents will fashion an attack against him that will turn Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina against him. If they do, then he’ll not be the nominee.

What we all need to do is have a #2 candidate in case Cruz doesn’t make it. I will not vote for a fake conservative, but I will vote for the MOST consistently conservative throughout his lifetime. (I’d love to get to vote for Jeff Sessions, but I don’t think he’ll run.)

I need to decide early on who those are acceptable alternate candidates are. I really don’t want Hillary or Warren or Moonbeam or Biden or Michelle.


98 posted on 07/22/2014 3:05:10 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: SoConPubbie; xzins
I do believe you are exaggerating here, and I think you ought to consider deeply doing so no longer.

I watched pissant go literally mad attacking Sarah Palin, just because his preferred candidate did not have her capacity; every once in a while I STILL have to correct one of those who believes that PALIN is an open borders amnesty shill as a result of his spamming the same kind of nonsense.

Like I said earlier, this is one of the reasons we as conservatives have become losers. Dealing in exaggeration to help take down another decent candidate is simply wrong, and I say this as a loyal Cruz fan.

Don't go the way of pissant, Cruz doesn't need that, rather he needs you to point out his many genuine strengths.

100 posted on 07/22/2014 3:16:51 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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