I thought you guys already decided the outcome?...why would you be interested in dissecting or having counter points on any conclusions which might be given... or the ultimate outcome, particularly since you’ve disqualified any evidence the Russians have given thus far?.....which would disqualify you from making an informed decision about it.
Considering the source, duh? The same Russian machine that creates stories about Ukrainians crucifying 3 year olds
Judging on the initial evidence so far, Strelkov claiming the kill of a Ukrainian plane which was MH17