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1 posted on 07/21/2014 6:33:16 AM PDT by SJackson
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2 posted on 07/21/2014 6:35:44 AM PDT by SJackson (government tampers with a freedom so fundamental, one shudders to think what lies ahead. Card Dolan)
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Most people know the US doesn’t deal honestly about anything. Hard to broker a “peace deal” when your assistant SOS is sending out tweets like #initforGaza or #goGazaGo.


3 posted on 07/21/2014 6:37:18 AM PDT by dforest
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Netanyahu is a serious man. He will eliminate threats to his county. He also has little patience for petulant incompetent narcissists like Kerry and Obama.


4 posted on 07/21/2014 6:40:37 AM PDT by allendale
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5 posted on 07/21/2014 6:43:27 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Palestinian death toll in Gaza reaches 508
http://news.yahoo.com/palestinian-death-toll-gaza-reaches-508-090313038.html

That’s 508 less jihadis Israel has to deal with now or in the future.


6 posted on 07/21/2014 6:43:49 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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You’ll notice that Kerry didn’t go to Gaza when the rockets were being launched at Israel, only when Israel defended itself.


7 posted on 07/21/2014 6:44:25 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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It’s not on Israel, this time!

Arab rifts may complicate search for Gaza truce [Israel and Hamas]
http://news.yahoo.com/arab-rifts-may-complicate-search-gaza-truce-162358992.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3183170/posts

DOHA/CAIRO (Reuters) - The push for a Gaza ceasefire risks becoming mired in a regional tussle for influence between conservative Arab states and Islamist-friendly governments, with rival powers competing to take credit for a truce, analysts and some officials say.

The main protagonists are Arab heavyweight Egypt and the tiny Gulf state of Qatar, on opposite sides of a regional standoff over Hamas, the Islamist group that controls the Gaza Strip, and its ideological patron the Muslim Brotherhood.

Both camps suggest the other is motivated as much by a desire to polish diplomatic prestige and crush political adversaries as by the humanitarian goal of protecting Palestinian lives from the Israeli military.

“Gaza has turned very suddenly into the theater in which this new alignment within the Arab world is being expressed,” said UK-based analyst Ghanem Nusseibeh.

“Gaza is the first test for these new alliances, and this has affected the possibility of reaching a ceasefire there.”

He was referring to Qatar, Turkey, Sudan and non-Arab Iran, the main members of a loose grouping of states which believe Islamists represent the future of Middle East politics.

That camp stands in increasingly overt competition with a conservative, pro-Western group led by Egypt, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, most of whom are intent on crushing the Brotherhood and see it as a threat.

That cleavage is now apparent in the diplomacy over Gaza.

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This was the “new alignment” in the Middle East spoken about in a previous article from Israel, posted a few days ago! Now Gaza and Hamas is the fulcrum in the middle of this test of wills between these two major blocks. Israel has aligned itself with the Egyptian side, because both Israel and Egypt have the common goal of crushing Hamas, while the other side wants to save Hamas!


11 posted on 07/21/2014 12:56:51 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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This was the earlier article ...

Euphoric Hamas needs to hear that Israel will oust it from Gaza if necessary
http://www.timesofisrael.com/euphoric-hamas-needs-to-hear-that-israel-will-oust-it-from-gaza-if-necessary/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3182432/posts

The Qatari ceasefire initiative, first reported by the Times of Israel Saturday, illustrates how the continuing escalation of the conflict in Gaza has actually got nothing to do with Israel itself. Unfortunately, Israel has found itself tangled up in a battle of far wider proportions — a war between two competing axes in the Sunni Muslim world.

On the one side are Egypt and the Palestinian Authority, with Jordan and Saudi Arabia likely to join them in the next couple of days. On the other, Qatar, Turkey and Hamas, as well as other global supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood.

This is a proxy war for all intents and purposes. Make no mistake, Hamas remains committed to the destruction of Israel. But Hamas is firing rockets at Tel Aviv and sending terrorists through tunnels into southern Israel while aiming, in essence, at Cairo. It is backed in this by Doha and Ankara.

What arises from this state of affairs, and from Hamas’s baseless demands as they appear in the Qatari ceasefire proposal, is that this crisis is far from over.

Hamas is confident, even euphoric. In recent days, people who came in contact with the Palestinian terror organization’s leaders report that the sense they are broadcasting is that Hamas is besieging Tel Aviv, and that it will be starting its invasion of Israel shortly, not that the IDF is striking hard at Gaza, has its ground troops hitting Hamas in the Palestinian enclave, and is setting back the Hamas terrorist infrastructure by years ...

In a meeting with Palestinian Authority President Abbas in Cairo on Wednesday, Moussa Abu Marzouk, the deputy head of Hamas’s political bureau, dismissed Abbas’s pleas regarding a ceasefire, explaining that “what are 200 martyrs compared with lifting the siege [on the Gaza Strip?]”

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You thought this war was between Israel and Hamas! BUT, it’s now seen as a war between TWO COMPETING GROUPS in the Middle East, with Israel simply being used as a PAWN between them. The rockets are nonetheless real and damaging and people do get killed, but it’s REALLY not Israel as the focal point. If you understand that, things will fit together better, in your understanding.

Israel is “lining up” with the Egypt/Jordan/Saudi Arabia faction, as we’ve already seen with their cooperation with Egypt!


12 posted on 07/21/2014 12:57:32 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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