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To: null and void

“Don’t read too much into my post. ALL I’m saying is that Putin does not have direct personal culpability for this particular incident.”

That’s a ridiculous comment. It’s all but impossible for the separatists to have operated the SA-11 system without Russian training. It’s all but impossible that they even had the system at all unless the Russians gave it to them. And it’s highly questionable whether there’s been enough time since hostilities began for the Russians to train insurgent knuckleheads to actually use it. The fact that an easily identifiable commercial airliner was shot down instead of another military transport is the only thing that keeps me from believing this was done by idiot separatists rather than the Russians themselves. In any case, the responsibility for this falls directly onto the Putin regime absent an absolutely magnificent false flag operation run by the Ukrainians(which is kind of a tough sell given that the separatists were peacocking about the hit on the internet moments after the plane went down.


37 posted on 07/19/2014 5:40:11 PM PDT by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: Blackyce

should read: “ keeps me believing this was done by idiot separatists rather than the Russians themselves.”


38 posted on 07/19/2014 5:41:17 PM PDT by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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In any case, the responsibility for this falls directly onto the Putin regime absent an absolutely magnificent false flag operation run by the Ukrainians(which is kind of a tough sell given that the separatists were peacocking about the hit on the internet moments after the plane went down.


Good summary of the shoot down. I would add another sign Russian guilt is the SA-11 rig bugging out back to Mother Russia ASAP after the SHTF.

But clearly it’s all Ukrainians fault for allowing Putin to set up his high altitude SAM on their land.


51 posted on 07/19/2014 8:41:59 PM PDT by lodi90
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