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To: ansel12
He is an idiot and he is wrong on this one, this is a Russian invasion of Ukraine ...

If Russia had invaded Ukraine, there would already be a puppet government in Kiev, and the only way to talk about the Ukrainian military would be in the past tense. An actual invasion by Russia would look very different than what we see here. Russia would defeat the Ukrainian military very quickly, and would have little difficulty gaining control of the government. And then they would be bogged down in a quagmire.

What is occurring here is in that very broad grey area between non-intervention, and outright invasion. Are they supplying arms, logistics, expertise, and possibly some cross-border excursions? Definitely. There is a separatist movement on the country that borders theirs. It would be surprising if they weren't, at least to some degree. Are they going too far? Probably, but I do question how other countries would handle a similar situation. I suspect that many of the holier-than-thou crowd would be holding themselves to far looser standards than they currently hold Russia. But to call this an invasion is not accurate. Not even close.

And you are right. ISIS isn't even close to invading the US.
57 posted on 07/18/2014 8:44:34 PM PDT by jjsheridan5 (Remember Mississippi -- leave the GOP plantation)
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To: jjsheridan5

I think most military experts agree that this is a typical Russian invasion, it is a method of slow conquest that they use.


61 posted on 07/18/2014 8:47:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: jjsheridan5; BobL

The rebels are in full alliance with Moscow. This is probably in preparation for a Russian invasion.

The Russians invaded Georgia on a pretext too, gobbled up part of the country. They never got a puppet government in Tbilisi though.


67 posted on 07/18/2014 8:52:16 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: jjsheridan5

The Russians ARE the separatist movement, you can bet they answer directly to Moscow.


68 posted on 07/18/2014 8:54:19 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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