A cross appears through the smoke over the devastation in this photo- eerily reminiscent of the 9/11 cross
(telephone pole, actually- but still eerie)
Posted on 07/18/2014 1:35:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway
The route flown by the downed Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH17 was one approved by the International Civil Aviation Authority (ICAO) and had been used by Malaysia Airlines for years, said Transport Minister Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai. Liow, who spoke at a press conference at the Sama-Sama Hotel here on Friday denied that MAS had used the route to save on fuel costs.
"The route was an approved path that had been used for ten years by MAS and other aircraft, and 15 out of 16 Asia-Pacific countries use that route which has been determined by the ICAO. There was nothing informing us that the route should not be used. For many years, we have taken the same route and many other countries have also used the same route. In fact during that time, many other aircraft were using the same route," said Liow.
Asked if a terrible mistake has been made by allowing MH17 to pass over the Ukraine, Liow reiterated this route was an ICAO approved route and had received no notice not to use the route by the ICAO.
He repeated this when asked if he would take any responsibility for putting the lives of passengers at risk and for the deaths that occurred.
In a press release, Liow said there were no last-minute instructions given to the pilots to change the route of the flight.
He added that Malaysia Airlines had also released a statement on the aircraft's service record, which showed a clean bill of health.
MH17 disappeared from radar screens in eastern Ukraine at around 1415 GMT on Thursday, hours after the Boeing 777, bound for Kuala Lumpur, had taken off from Amsterdam’s Schiphol airport.
It is believed to have been shot down 50km from the Ukraine-Russia border.
All 298 passengers and crew on board, including 43 Malaysians, are believed to have perished.
Pro-Russian separatists are currently holding the area
The only similarity between the two flight paths is that they briefly converged at Warsaw, Poland while going East on the same day. Far away from Ukraine.
Use your common sense. Just how likely is Putin going to fly his private jet right over a country with which he has been antagonizing? Even RT (which began the propaganda you’re unwittingly regurgitating) admitted Putin hasn’t flown over Ukraine for some time.
I’m sure the Ukrainians were just waiting to shoot down Putin’s jet the next time it flew over Kiev. Not.
I thought that the cell phone videos with those drunken Cossacks gloating over the kill were dispositive.
Right. Seeing is believing and we know that governments could not possibly collude and cover up don’t we?
Never mind. I’ll include you in my #36.
LOL. Now I understand your name.
Let's review the issue for a minute.
Liow says the route was safe.
The plane was shot down.
Flying over a war zone.
All aboard died.
Seems they make morons as clueless, arrogant and ignorant in Malaysia as our very own Liar-in-chief!
Think they can also get away with it?
Evidently a lot more than Malaysia!
Have you seen the Ukraine air traffic map at the time of the shootdown?
Look at how close that plane is to the Russian border when shot down.
How do you mistake a plane as military and threatening that has flown 80% of the way across your territory at a fixed 33,000 feet on a fixed path that will be out of your territory in a matter of minutes.
Exactly the same way that the USS Vincennes shot down the Iranian airliner in 1988. You are profoundly ignorant of how flight control communications works. All the controllers scattered over thousands of square miles of airspace are not tracking every flight. What you describe is an impossible oversimplification, which is reason enough to wince.
In retrospect, everything you say makes sense. In real life, at any given moment in any heavily trafficked area, not so simple.
The complicating factor seems to be that whoever fired the missiles was even more ignorant of the different frequencies possible to attempt to communicate with a specific aircraft in the area, (a reasonable expectation before shooting down a suspect aircraft) whether the transponder data was even checked (military or civilian?) before making the decision to fire.
I won't even attempt to understand the complexity of the additional time and multiple steps necessary to prepare the missile system to fire, while, presumably, the suspect plane is verified as hostile and threatening. Every aircraft within a hundred miles? I don't think so.
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