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The Nuclear Option: Why Do I Have to Buy Healthcare for Potheads?
Breitbart ^ | July 18 2014 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 07/18/2014 10:46:15 AM PDT by PoloSec

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To: PoloSec

And guess what. You’ll be buying their pot too.


41 posted on 07/18/2014 12:54:51 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Because you’re a hypocrite to only legalize your favorite drug and lump it with the other legal ones. To me, legalizing means more use which we don’t need. Look to CO and WA for what’ll become of the whole country. It’s not going to be pretty.


42 posted on 07/18/2014 12:55:46 PM PDT by Monty22002
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To: Monty22002
Look to CO and WA for what’ll become of the whole country. It’s not going to be pretty.

I'll take states rights and personal autonomy over a spectacularly failed War On (Some) Drugs, the destruction of the Fourth Amendment, and an incarceration rate greater than any other country on the planet.

Those making the argument about paying for potheads' health care are already for paying for their stops, arrests, convictions and jail/prison time.

43 posted on 07/18/2014 1:00:33 PM PDT by gdani (Every day, your Govt surveils you more than the day before)
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To: Monty22002
Because you’re a hypocrite to only legalize your favorite drug and lump it with the other legal ones. To me, legalizing means more use which we don’t need. Look to CO and WA for what’ll become of the whole country. It’s not going to be pretty.

I don't have a “favorite drug.” I don't use.

Historically, drugs such as Marijuana and Hashish were legal at least until the 30s. Stupid people will make poor choices whether it's smoking their brains out, eating too much, eating garbage food, etc.

I'm not saying sell Crack and Meth from vending machines. All I'm saying is I prefer dangerous liberty to being a slave to a nanny state.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JizGkM6gbvQ

44 posted on 07/18/2014 1:04:41 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Monty22002
The welfare and loss of tax revenue from lazy bums that otherwise would’ve been contributors is where the real impact will be. It won’t be so in your face though, it’ll just be a general worsening standard of living for us all. But to a liberaltarian that’s a price worth paying of course.

Actually, a libertarian would say that the citizenry should be free to smoke if they so wish... and that no citizen should be forced to pay for the care of any other citizen at all. Those who want their choices subsidized by the general public are called liberals, not libertarians. Learn the difference.

45 posted on 07/18/2014 1:16:50 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

“I believe I mentioned “actuarial evidence”. Look it up.”
Your hoping the information is verifiable. Stoners lie and do not tell the truth. How would actuaries be able to acrue any truth from dumbass stoners?


46 posted on 07/18/2014 1:24:26 PM PDT by 9422WMR ("Ignorance can be cured by education, but stupidity is forever.")
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To: 9422WMR

Apparently, you have no idea whatsoever how such evidence is collected.


47 posted on 07/18/2014 1:33:55 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Durus

He was too stoned to go to the doctor. Pot related death. ;-(


48 posted on 07/18/2014 1:35:31 PM PDT by 9422WMR ("Ignorance can be cured by education, but stupidity is forever.")
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To: alexander_busek
The abomination known as ObamaCare should not be cited as a further argument to throw people in prison for exercising their God-given rights to "enjoy ever herb that groweth..."

To be fair, that's not the article's position:

"I certainly don’t think that my long-developed and strongly held views against using drugs should be inflicted upon other people to whom I have no responsibility. Nor do I believe that someone else’s devotion to a weed pipe in any way impinges upon some high morals or precious views that I might hold.

"I don’t like cats. But I don’t want to outlaw cats."

But it does seem to be the position of some on this thread.

49 posted on 07/18/2014 1:41:13 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Durus
If I am forced to pay the healthcare bills for anyone other than myself and my family then I am a slave. I don’t care if they are pot heads or health nuts.

Amen!

50 posted on 07/18/2014 1:42:15 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: tophat9000
It’s “Medical Marijuana” right? ..

In Colorado and Washington, it's mostly legal recreational marijuana.

51 posted on 07/18/2014 1:44:05 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: sheana

“How’s that for evidence? ;)”

Anecdotal, and therefore dubious.


52 posted on 07/18/2014 1:45:30 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Monty22002
So you’d legalize heroin, meth, and cocaine too I’m sure.

I would.

And have them at every 7-11.

I wouldn't - I'd leave it up to local licensing bodies, many of whom don't allow hard liquor sales at 7-11s. (And some counties don't allow alcohol at all.)

Since ‘all drugs are the same’ apparently to liberaltarians.

I never heard anyone say that. What most mind-altering drugs, including alcohol, have in common is that banning them serves only to enrich criminals.

53 posted on 07/18/2014 1:48:33 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: 9422WMR
Let’s ask Bob Marley about that. Oh wait, we can’t. He died of lung cancer from smoking pot!!

Completely false. Bob Marley died from melanoma (skin cancer) that developed from a spike wound on his foot from playing soccer, then metastasized though his body. He never had lung cancer, and it had nothing to do with weed.

54 posted on 07/18/2014 2:05:30 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: ConservingFreedom

You’re crazy, but at least you’re not a hypocrite like many liberaltarians.


55 posted on 07/18/2014 2:34:00 PM PDT by Monty22002
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To: ConservingFreedom
In Colorado and Washington, it's mostly legal recreational marijuana.

What are you babbling? Washington retail stores have been open only for a few days and some have already closed due to lack of product. Meanwhile, no real supply constraints exist in the medical marijuana market and the black market is huge.

56 posted on 07/18/2014 2:39:19 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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tophat9000: It’s “Medical Marijuana” right? ..

In Colorado and Washington, it's mostly legal recreational marijuana.

Washington retail stores have been open only for a few days and some have already closed due to lack of product. Meanwhile, no real supply constraints exist in the medical marijuana market

LOL! Leave it to government. But I expect soon enough Washington will catch up to Colorado, where nonmedical marijuana sales are booming.

and the black market is huge.

I'm sure you know that's mostly not medical marijuana - if we're counting the black market, it's additional evidence against tophat9000's claim, 'It’s “Medical Marijuana”'.

57 posted on 07/18/2014 3:04:08 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Monty22002
What most mind-altering drugs, including alcohol, have in common is that banning them serves only to enrich criminals.

You’re crazy

Do you have evidence against my statement?

58 posted on 07/18/2014 3:05:47 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

You’re saying that is the only outcome. That nobody is deterred from using because of availability or legal issues. I know I was and have been, so I’m one example at least. I know of others as well.

It doesn’t ‘only’ do one thing. To think so is simple-minded and foolish. There are negatives and positives. I believe the positives far outweigh the negatives. Pot is more borderline than the rest, but to say legalized meth would be a net benefit is crazy.


59 posted on 07/18/2014 3:42:38 PM PDT by Monty22002
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You’re saying that is the only outcome. That nobody is deterred from using because of availability or legal issues. I know I was and have been, so I’m one example at least. I know of others as well.

Really? You and people you know were unafraid of the inherent risks of drug use but were afraid of the small chance of being arrested? Takes all kinds, I guess ...

60 posted on 07/18/2014 3:46:58 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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