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I think they were prior to Independence and the US as well as the rest of them world didn't recognize them as anything except Russian. The US didn't recognize Ukraine until as an independent nation until Christmas of 1991.

You can live in Ohio and call yourself a Serb the way some neighbors of mine did when I was a kid but no one recognized Serbia, they recognized Yugoslavia.

1991 was 23 years ago so under International law someone born in Ukraine prior to that date had to have a Soviet passport and was recognized as a Soviet Union citizen. What internal definitions there were are no different than someone calling them self a "Buckeye" or a "Hoosier", they're still a US citizen if they're born in the US.

Apparently there are some differences in birth certificates because now I'm told someone here here has one that's different from what I have see for myself. Under International law, people still got a Soviet passport, not a Ukrainian one or at least that's what I've been shown just like I was shown birth certificates to back up what people were telling me. Their Soviet Passport was superseded by a Russian passport, not a Ukrainian one, and a Ukrainian one shortly thereafter.

A Russian engineer I worked with for a while was born in what's now Belarus, he still had a passport the Soviets issued and it listed him as Russian, not Soviet which surprised me. His Russian passport listed him as Russian as well in spite of his having been born in what's now a foreign country

How and why such things may have varied I don't know but I wouldn't put anything past the crazy bureaucracy that I've had described to me. I've also seen the Kiev crowd call someone a Ukrainian a Ukrainian one day and a few weeks later call them Russian. It was one of the people who worked for the guy the coup threw out. He didn't change his nationality when he was thrown out of his job and replaced but their classification of him changed. That's what triggered my asking the folks I know about this in the first place. Why would he be considered Ukraine one day and Russian a short time later.

You have a major mental malfunction if you think anyone who doesn't agree with you and King Barry is some sort of Putin or Stalin lover.

So let's apply the same standard to you that you apply to others, shall we?

Now, tell me all about how you love and support the Muzzies fighting to overthrow Assad in Syria now. That's another example of US policy and the above board, honest way, our government works these days. Explain why supporting the murder of thousands of Christians is a good US policy move. You have to agree with the people doing that because they're the same wonderful people putting out the BS about Ukraine. Bet you're as pissed about the MB getting slaughtered in Egypt as Barry is, too.

And I just know LBJ (may I live long enough to piss on his grave - - - in keeping with your Muzzie style blessings) is one of your heroes and without a doubt Big Bill Jeff has to be one of your favorite all time folks, right? It's your logic so suck on it.

Enjoy the rest of your Rammy Damn now, ya' hear?