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Police say gunmen in Stockton shootout were gang members
sfgate.com ^ | Thursday, July 17, 2014 | Evan Sernoffsky

Posted on 07/17/2014 5:55:49 PM PDT by BenLurkin

The surviving suspect from a Stockton bank robbery, car chase and shootout that left a hostage and two suspects dead is a 19-year-old gang associate, police said Thursday.

Jaime Ramos of Stockton was booked into San Joaquin County Jail on suspicion of homicide, kidnapping, robbery and attempted murder. Police said he was one of three documented Norteños gang members who took part in an hour-long chase and shootout with dozens of officers Wednesday.

... About an hour into the chase, the second bank-employee hostage was thrown or jumped from the vehicle that was traveling around 50 mph, police said. She was not identified and was expected to survive.

Minutes later, the SUV was finally disabled after its tires were shot out by officers near Thornton Road and Otto Drive in north Stockton. The gunmen again opened fire on police, who poured return fire into the SUV. Police said Ramos used the bank customer, who had been taken hostage, as a human shield. She and two suspects were killed. Ramos was not injured in the hail of gunfire.

Police said the two dead suspects were both Stockton gang members, ages 30 and 27. Officers did not release their names but said the 30-year-old suspect was the driver and the 27-year-old was firing an "AK-47-style" assault rifle from the passenger's seat.

Police did not release the name of the slain hostage, but family members told several media outlets that she was Misty Holt-Singh, who was married with children.

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To: gaijin
Is he wearing eye liner or is that tattooed make-up?

Is this the new poster child for the perfect Democrat tri-fecta example of a protected oppressed foreign deviant minority?

Illegal alien “Dreamer”.
Criminal gang member.
LGBT supporter/member.

Or is it just two out of three?

21 posted on 07/17/2014 6:31:59 PM PDT by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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To: BenLurkin

Well this will give the cowards (I.e. Feinstein, Bloomburg, Emmanuel and so on) another reason to demand that guns be, taken away from law abiding people while they ignore the real problems in society. Never hear these people talk about the gangs.


22 posted on 07/17/2014 6:35:35 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

If he is a “butt-boy” in prison it would be by choice.
As a member of a prominent gang he is among the protected.
He could be shanked but that is a risk all of those scumbags
face.


23 posted on 07/17/2014 6:37:33 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: BenLurkin
...a 19-year-old gang associate...

Gang Associate? Is that the new pc name for scumbags now?

24 posted on 07/17/2014 6:37:52 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: BenLurkin

Norteños

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norte%C3%B1os


25 posted on 07/17/2014 6:38:09 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: BenLurkin

Yeah, lets rob a bank at 230 in the afternoon gang commando style, take hostages while surrounded by 100 cops, drive all over the town shooting out the windows at everything, while being chased by 3 cop choppers, 5 news choppers and 75 cop cars...

Real slick heist homeboys.


26 posted on 07/17/2014 6:44:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Welcome to the new imported culture that the politicians of both Parties have given us for their political gain, and our loss. How many America citizens have voted to have our USA culture replaced by what comes from south of the border? Even most average Democrats don’t want it.

It is Democrat politicians that want it; The US Chamber of Commerce wants it; many Repub politicians want it because big business wants it......but we American citizens don’t want it except for a few, but we are going to get it shoved down our throat if we do not fight it.

Every American needs to spend a few minutes a day being heard. It makes a difference.


27 posted on 07/17/2014 6:51:41 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Global corporatism is the threat to freedom and rights. They want your sovereignty and politicians.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“But, but we’ve been told the AK-47 is so deadly it needs to be banned, in fact it IS banned in Kali.”

That is not a true statement. So long as it has a 10 round mag and a bullet button mag release, you can own one here. Saw a couple on a gun store’s wall last week.


28 posted on 07/17/2014 6:52:25 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Bon of Babble

The deceased.


29 posted on 07/17/2014 7:13:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: hal ogen

Yeah! One of those jobs Americans won’t do.


30 posted on 07/17/2014 7:15:06 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: Veggie Todd

The associates are pals with the graffiti artists.


31 posted on 07/17/2014 7:16:21 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Just what is the real reason to disarm a law abiding citizen like me?)
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To: gaijin

The rounds seem to have been sprayed in a pattern fifteen feet in diameter, most not aimed. An hour long chase and not one round into the grill or hood.


32 posted on 07/17/2014 7:46:23 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: vette6387
That is not a true statement. So long as it has a 10 round mag and a bullet button mag release, you can own one here. Saw a couple on a gun store’s wall last week.

Saw an image yesterday of one of the AKs used. It had a standard-sized magazine, which, IIRC, is 30 rounds.

33 posted on 07/17/2014 7:52:02 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: BenLurkin

Strange media post (outreach to one of the deceased, “alleged” bank robber’s family), “Steve Hill A******* T**** Please contact News 10 at now@news10.net or 916-321-3300. We’d like to hear the truth about the man you knew. —Barnett Parker, News 10 assignment desk”.


34 posted on 07/17/2014 8:15:34 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: cripplecreek

Police said he was one of three documented Norteños gang members .................


35 posted on 07/17/2014 8:27:54 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch

The PD hasn’t released the names, but family members/friends of the “alleged” deceased are posting on Social Media (on the Stockton PD site)


36 posted on 07/17/2014 8:30:18 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: BenLurkin

Hmmm. They identified the dead hostage. They named the surviving perp. But the two dead perps remain nameless, even though police are sure they are documented gang members. What’s holding up the info to the public?


37 posted on 07/17/2014 8:34:03 PM PDT by csn vinnie
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To: csn vinnie

don’t know, but the family/friends/citizens are naming names on the Stockton PD facebook. (of the two)


38 posted on 07/17/2014 8:39:29 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: csn vinnie

Holder’s Fast and Furious? None of these criminals were legal to purchase or own a weapon because of previous felonies.


39 posted on 07/17/2014 8:46:47 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: csn vinnie
Well duh!

We have to show compassion to the unknown foreign relatives of criminal illegal aliens!

They might be emotionally upset if they find out via the media that their loved ones were killed in the USA while murdering USA citizens.

40 posted on 07/17/2014 8:50:46 PM PDT by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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