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Malaysian Plane 'Shot Down With 295 On Board'
SkyNews ^ | July 17,2014

Posted on 07/17/2014 8:55:30 AM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: corkoman

This Buk is serious military hardware. It is not a portable surface to air missile launcher. Did they (Ukrainians) think it was a Russian warplane?


81 posted on 07/17/2014 9:36:24 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: DTA

Yep 777
First one disappears on 7- March number 370
Now 7-17 flight 17
Are the Separatist Muslim?


82 posted on 07/17/2014 9:38:31 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: wrench

So the Russian military should have known - or was it the Ukraine that shot it down. Time will tell.


83 posted on 07/17/2014 9:41:27 AM PDT by SkyDancer (If you do not read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read the newspapers you are misinfo)
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To: gaijin

That cold I like it LOL!


84 posted on 07/17/2014 9:44:46 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Hojczyk

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_UKRAINE_PLANE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-07-17-12-00-29

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said his country’s armed forces didn’t shoot at any airborne targets.


85 posted on 07/17/2014 9:44:46 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Hojczyk

Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, just about any route looks like overflight of multiple war zones is involved these days.

As Malaysia Airlines is in bankruptcy now, this will probably stick a fork in it.


86 posted on 07/17/2014 9:45:18 AM PDT by wrench
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To: Veto!
>>>>>>>Really interesting. And clever. Are you serious about MA providing equipment for armed conflicts? Do you have a source?<<<<<<<<

I followed closely reports and pilots and engineers' discussions on aviation boards about MH370 and concluded that there is something very odd about Malaysian Airlines when compared to other commercial airlines from two bit countries. Somebody was helping MA badly to edit the obvious gaps in storytelling and that somebody was capable enough to hush up Rolls Royce (owner of the MH370 engines) about the engines whereabouts, force Boeing to issue conflicting report whether MH370 had satnav antenna bolted on or not and so on. Too many amazing details to mention them all, readign it makes Tom Clancy dull by comparison.

87 posted on 07/17/2014 9:45:45 AM PDT by DTA
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To: SkyDancer

Military and civilian ATC “should” all be on the same page, but in that part of the world, I would not bet on it.


88 posted on 07/17/2014 9:48:00 AM PDT by wrench
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To: corkoman

does not look “friendly”


89 posted on 07/17/2014 9:53:27 AM PDT by Lockbar (What would Vlad The Impaler do?)
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To: Hojczyk

Are we sure it wasn’t MH 370?


90 posted on 07/17/2014 9:57:20 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: VRWC For Truth
such disrespek....I...will handle this once I return from My Luxury Vacation...next month




91 posted on 07/17/2014 9:59:53 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: Hojczyk
Why is the ICAO routing commercial flights over Ukraine ?

92 posted on 07/17/2014 10:03:15 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Hojczyk

Top of the hour news indicates there are more casualties from folks on the ground so it must have crashed in a populated area.
I would not get on a Malaysian air liner if my life depended on it


93 posted on 07/17/2014 10:07:04 AM PDT by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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To: Cboldt

I used to walk past Lucas’s small IL&M branch in Berkeley, so go that part. MA as an unwitting extra in terror biz really is clever. Thanks.

Perhaps they’ll find a better agent to get them better parts. ;>)


94 posted on 07/17/2014 10:08:16 AM PDT by Veto! (OpInions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: hoosiermama

9/12/1683 was the day of the defeat of Muslim forces in the Battle of Vienna. So 9/11 is the date of the high watermark of Muslim penetration into Europe. They’re all about history.


95 posted on 07/17/2014 10:10:31 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: DTA
Somebody was helping MA badly to edit the obvious gaps in storytelling and that somebody was capable enough to hush up Rolls Royce

Thanks. Interesting. Yes, this sort of intrigue deserves a Tom Clancy, God rest his soul.

96 posted on 07/17/2014 10:12:35 AM PDT by Veto! (OpInions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: wrench

Russia is paranoid - they shoot down civilian airliners. The did a 747 flt007 and a 707 back in the Sixties. Then there’s that Polish airliner with state officials on it so I bet they did this one too ...


97 posted on 07/17/2014 10:13:11 AM PDT by SkyDancer (If you do not read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read the newspapers you are misinfo)
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To: Hojczyk

This is what happens when you get conscripted farmboys and/or rebel militia operating a SAM site.


98 posted on 07/17/2014 10:41:59 AM PDT by brothers4thID (Death had to take him sleeping, else he would have put up a fight.)
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To: KC_Lion

Count on Obama to do exactly nothing about this.


99 posted on 07/17/2014 10:43:07 AM PDT by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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To: Hojczyk

Am seeing reports of 23 Americans aboard. RIP

Also, aircraft was north of normally traveled route due to local weather.

And, possible Ukraine/Russian military airspace overlap, and the rebels did have at least one BUK system.

Very sad and complicated situation


100 posted on 07/17/2014 11:07:00 AM PDT by wrench
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