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To: redgolum
Now, illegitimate births are higher now, but they were not as low as we like to think they were 200 years ago. This site suggest it was about 37% or so of first births were before marriage.

I just rolled out of bed and haven't had coffee yet, but isn't your source saying that the illegitimacy rate was 2 to 4% in England in the late 1700s and that 37% of first pregnancies were 'conceived' before marriage? *"" For example, while only two to four percent of births in England in the late 1700s were illegitimate, thirty-seven percent of first births to a couple followed pre-marital conception.""*

Besides that isn't about the female marriage rate anyway.

124 posted on 07/17/2014 6:55:08 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Here is another link to Google books.

http://books.google.com/books?id=hx5tyNkDQ7AC&pg=PA64&lpg=PA64&dq=illegitimacy+rate+1700&source=bl&ots=Cg0nDhg7HX&sig=7_6prKTd3mdDqhhA4gRkOp8R4yE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=q8bHU5nACsq6oQSFioHwAQ&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=illegitimacy%20rate%201700&f=false

And I guess you are right, it isn’t just about the female marriage rate. My point was that there were times with high rates of illegitimate children in Western countries before now.


125 posted on 07/17/2014 7:04:38 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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