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Do I really have to explain to all three of you what a sacred trust is? The people of this country, even before it became a nation, made a vow to the soldiery. Protect us, fight for us, possibly become maimed or even killed for us and we’ll take care of you or your widow and orphans. Now comes a time when certain groups, especially statists and libertarians, say that there’s not enough money in the till to make good on our promises and you’re on your own. Sorry. Well, that won’t cut it. If there’s money to buy food stamps, rent payments, cash payments, medical & dental and a host of other things for people who did nothing for society other than winning the “Born in the USA” or “Snuck into the USA” lotteries, there’s enough to keep a promise.

I think you might be confusing what I’ve said with what others have said - I think we’re all going to reap the whirlwind, through higher taxes, lower benefits, more confiscation and higher inflation. We’re already seeing the higher inflation as the government prints more and more money to pay its bills, reducing all of our purchasing power.

The numbers/projections are just too big and the economy too far into decline for any major group to be spared from what’s coming and what’s already happening.

As for sacred trust, I don’t need to tell you what your highest commitment was as a solider: to defend and preserve the Constitution and America’s continued existence as a Free Republic.

In that regard, we have all failed miserably.

So you expect us, by ourselves or with some civilian help, to mount a coup de etat against the most powerful war machine and police system in the history of mankind? They have weapons you've never even dreamed of. I know, because they were on the drawing boards way back when I was in. They have underground transportation systems, nuclear power, aircraft decades ahead of what you see at the airport and other vehicles which make a mockery of those heavy POS that they're giving away to the local Barney Fifes. And more. It may come to that, but if you think it's going to be a replay of the Philippines, Egypt, Libya or some Central American revolt, think again. Trillions of dollars have gone into getting ready. TRILLIONS!

In that regard, we have all failed miserably.

Which was my point. There is no money. The only way out is for all of us to get some pain. However, as many on this thread have said, it becomes "I want MY MONEY!"

I have seen this play out in small firms and large. Seen it in small town and county governments first had, and I am sitting next to Illinois who seems determined to go down that same path.

I don't like it. But we are screwed.