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Someone may know. Can a governor get the guard from his state on the border or can Obama stop it?


1 posted on 07/03/2014 7:44:55 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

Because the President is the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States, he possesses the power to federalize any National Guard unit and place it under his direct command. He could the order the National Guard unit to enforce his will, and any attempt to refuse his orders would be mutiny, punishable under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.


2 posted on 07/03/2014 7:48:57 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: doug from upland

I think the governor could activate the National Guard to protect the border, but it’s doubtful he could get the federal government to pay for it or provide any support.

0bama might even order the National Guard to stand down. Then what?


13 posted on 07/03/2014 8:15:47 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: doug from upland

We need a constitutional amendment that says that the Guard can be federalized only by an act of Congress. If the President needs more troops fast, he can call up the reserves.

The Guard must stay under state control unless called up by Congress. This would by a check against Presidential tyranny.


20 posted on 07/03/2014 8:38:12 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: doug from upland; smokingfrog
The Republican governors of TX, AZ & NM need to grow some balls, declare a state of emergency and deploy their NG to the border and not let anyone across.

when soetoro tries to take command they say "screw you".

Obviously soetoro cares nothing about the Constitution or the rule of law and is purposely undermining the Republic.

It is treason and this is for real.

27 posted on 07/03/2014 8:45:52 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: doug from upland

Why put them on the borde? They will have no authority whatsoever to apprehend or detain illegals. They won’t even be allowed to repel Mexican Cartel paramilitaries


30 posted on 07/03/2014 8:57:58 PM PDT by Ajnin (Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.)
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To: doug from upland

I doesn’t matter, when the NG is on the border they are not allowed to be armed and I would not ask anyone to serve here that is not armed. They are also not allowed to actually stop anyone, they have to hand anyone they might encounter to Border Patrol. Putting the NG on the border is theater, that is all. If it worked like it should it would be a great idea.


32 posted on 07/03/2014 9:01:24 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: doug from upland

All I know is that when Bush put the NG on the border illegal traffic stopped almost overnight.


34 posted on 07/03/2014 9:12:03 PM PDT by tiki
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To: doug from upland

We the people are the Militia. The Guard is the Federally recognized Militia. SAD and Title 32 gives the Militia law enforcement capability. When the Guard was put “on the border” before, I don’t think they were called up under either provision so they could not do law enforcement. If there is a question, they also could be deputized. There are a lot of unemployed people that would be glad for some sort of paycheck under SAD. Unemployed ex-military and ex-law enforcement (or retired) come on down. We will set up a paid rotation schedule that fits your needs. Bring your own weapon and ammo; we will provide a chair, food, drink and regular breaks. Just a suggestion.


39 posted on 07/03/2014 11:36:08 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: doug from upland

The problem with the state Governor calling out the guard for duty on the border is two-fold:

1. How long can these folks stay away from jobs and family since the duty of guarding the border in the absence of Federal actions to defend the border of the country seems to be off the table?

2.Is there any guarantee that the State will be reimbursed for conducting an action that is properly the concern of the Federal government but contrary to the President’s policy on illegal entry into the country?


40 posted on 07/04/2014 9:16:25 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: doug from upland; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; ...

Active Duty/ Guard ping.


44 posted on 07/20/2014 11:03:09 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: doug from upland

OK so Perry calls up the National Guard on his own authority as governor and sends them to the border. Who is responsible for paying their salaries, food, fuel for their vehicles and helicopters, so on and so forth? Based on that chart it looks like the state is.


48 posted on 07/21/2014 10:21:21 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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