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Wales: Campaign to improve Rorke's Drift hero's grave [1964 Movie Zulu Men of Harlech]
Wales Online ^ | June 29, 2014

Posted on 06/29/2014 7:34:22 AM PDT by bd476

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To: LS
Colour Sergeant Bourne: It's a miracle.

Lieutenant John Chard: If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry point 45 caliber miracle.

Colour Sergeant Bourne: And a bayonet, sir, with some guts behind.

21 posted on 06/29/2014 8:22:15 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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miss marmelstein wrote: "I dare not post on this thread because the last time I did - to praise the wonderful movie "Zulu" - I had a nutty freeper ream me out because Stanley Baker was a socialist commie! He still made a good movie, though."

LOL! I'm laughing with you Miss Marmelstein and agree with you that Stanley Baker was an outstanding actor! It says a lot that despite his political views, he was still awarded Knighthood. How sad that he was unable to officially receive the honor due to his illness, hospitalization and early death.


22 posted on 06/29/2014 8:25:08 AM PDT by bd476
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To: Ancient Man

The Battle of Isandlwana and the Battle of Rorke’s Drift occurred on consecutive days.


23 posted on 06/29/2014 8:26:49 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: bd476

Great movie. The little touches really make it. The concern for the singers. The Soldier’s sadness over the calf. The troublemaker who becomes a hero and returns to being a troublemaker.

I think they managed to portray the British Soldiers in a positive manner without disparaging the Zulu warriors.


24 posted on 06/29/2014 8:28:45 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Ancient Man

You’re welcome, Ancient Man. I agree. I’ve heard it many times and still get choked up listening to it.


25 posted on 06/29/2014 8:29:54 AM PDT by bd476
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I’ll never forget someone here going off at me - maybe two years ago! A complete loon.

The odd thing about British socialists (unlike American scum) is that they are often quite fond of their country and the Empire - as Mr. Baker clearly was if “Zulu” is anything to go by. He had wonderful screen presence and I wish he had made many more movies.

The last thing I saw him in was a remake of “How Green Was My Valley.” He was clearly very ill but wonderful nonetheless.

Glad to know there are Stanley Baker fans out of the closet on FR!


26 posted on 06/29/2014 8:36:00 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: blueunicorn6

The family of Hickie (played by James Booth) was outraged at his portrayal. He apparently was nothing like that heroic rebel and outlaw. But that’s show biz. The final salute of the Zulus is also fictional but who gives a damn?


27 posted on 06/29/2014 8:38:15 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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I dare not post on this thread because the last time I did - to praise the wonderful movie “Zulu” - I had a nutty freeper ream me out because Stanley Baker was a socialist commie!
C'mon, you're a New Yawker ... should have told him to go pi$$ up a rope!
Zulu is a great flick and one of my all time favorites.
28 posted on 06/29/2014 8:40:39 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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I’m sure I snarked back at him but he was wild! STANLEY BAKER IS THE DEVIL, he said.


29 posted on 06/29/2014 8:42:40 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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miss marmelstein wrote: "Burton's narration is a thing of beauty in that film. Oh, if he had only sustained his greatness and not gone for the dirty lucre!"

Whoa, what ever could have happened to the last part of your sentence? ;P :D

He gets me every time. I would like to think it's due to his acting, but Burton had something else, some intangible something. Maybe it's as simple as his being Welsh. From earliest childhood I heard all about my Welsh roots, about where "we" were from, so it's entirely possible. Yet who can resist his delivery, his on-screen intensity.

The critique given an artist as being so good that people would pay to hear them recite the telephone directory sometimes isn't just a catchphrase.


30 posted on 06/29/2014 8:45:19 AM PDT by bd476
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The entire movie ZULU is available to view here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meH1Y0tdzLk&feature=youtu.be


31 posted on 06/29/2014 8:51:47 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: bd476; Monkey Face
Not just hear. We want to watch Rex Harrison read from the phone directory (or the Unabridged Dictionary), too.
32 posted on 06/29/2014 8:52:37 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I don't feel obligated to provide you with a non-boring gun.)
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To: miss marmelstein
STANLEY BAKER IS THE DEVIL, he said.
Bologna ... everyone knows that's George W Bush.
33 posted on 06/29/2014 8:52:56 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: blueunicorn6; miss marmelstein
blueunicorn6 wrote: "Great movie. The little touches really make it. The concern for the singers. The Soldier’s sadness over the calf. The troublemaker who becomes a hero and returns to being a troublemaker. I think they managed to portray the British Soldiers in a positive manner without disparaging the Zulu warriors."

Good points and well said, BlueUnicorn6.


34 posted on 06/29/2014 9:00:25 AM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476; vladimir998

He was the third son of a poor Welsh coal-miner who grew up in the 1930s, when real material poverty still existed in Britain. I can understand why people who have experienced such poverty are emotionally drawn to socialism, but modern-day western socialists who have known nothing but wealth and privilege have no such excuse.


35 posted on 06/29/2014 9:01:18 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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Well, I never bought the phone book analogy but Burton had one of the greatest speaking voices of any actor of the 20th century. He was also a very great stage actor - early in his career.

His first role was in the play “A Lady's Not for Burning” in which he played a young servant who scrubbed the floor - his back to the audience. No dialogue. For whatever reason, his presence alone caused audience members to be moved to tears and critics to exclaim at this new force in the theater world. Now that is the stuff of legend. In theater parlance, he had at a young age what is called “hunger.” Success, Elizabeth Taylor and tons of money destroyed that hunger. He also began to dislike acting and turned his talents to writing.

36 posted on 06/29/2014 9:08:05 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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The sound in that movie is great. The Zulu running. The Zulu chanting. The Zulu pounding on their shields.

The scene where the British form three ranks and then volley fire by rank is really good. You never see the Zulu falling. Then, the camera pulls back to show a huge pile of dead Zulu reaching ALMOST to the first rank. Really well done. Just quiet and shock on the faces of the British Soldiers.


37 posted on 06/29/2014 9:10:38 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Oh, how I love this movie! Your description alone raised the hair on my arms - and I’m not overly hairy.

Let’s not forget the subplot with a loopy Jack Hawkins who has to be locked in - I think - a wc for demoralizing the troops.


38 posted on 06/29/2014 9:15:15 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: bd476

“Zulu” is my All Time favorite movie. I never get tired of watching it and hating Michael Caine... He was SO good in the role of the arrogant elite!


39 posted on 06/29/2014 9:21:31 AM PDT by Monkey Face (The biggest lie I tell myself is, "I don't need to write that down. I'll remember it."- Aunty Acid)
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Maybe I will watch “Zulu” as a treat for being such a good girl today.


40 posted on 06/29/2014 9:23:53 AM PDT by Monkey Face (The biggest lie I tell myself is, "I don't need to write that down. I'll remember it."- Aunty Acid)
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