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To: Kansas58; Finny; Norm Lenhart; verga; RitaOK; Windflier; EternalVigilance
Kansas58:

Now we seem to be making some progress. Your #142 gets to the bottom of your story and it is very good. I am pinging most of those whom I have been pinging to see this side of the story which is so much more favorable to you and which I am personally willing to accept as gospel truth. I still have no use for NRLC but that is another story for another time. Mere politics.

First, I fully understand that someone with a Series 7 license has much more at stake than most of us even if sued much less arrested. Not all pro-lifers are called to Rescue. A disproportionate number were either very young or elderly and retired.

Second, while not everyone could Rescue, it did seem incumbent upon pro-lifers to be at least supportive, whether or not that was politic.

Third, apparently you were more supportive in 1991 than NRLC. One of my first Rescue clients was an extraordinarily principled young man who later was for many years a major NRLC staffer. Once on their payroll, he would not answer telephone calls. He is apparently no longer so principled. In about 15 years, he will be eligible for the gold watch and 50-year pin as Roe vs. Wade rolls on.

Fourth, I am not denigrating your victory at the 10th Circuit or later over the late Pat Kelly. I have little doubt that Pat (whom I came to have high regard for in many respects) was quite capable of unprofessional temper tantrums from the bench. He did worry about the Tenth Circuit's authority to overturn him. May God have mercy on his soul and forgive his transgressions.

Fifth, when Pat was Catholic, his pastor was Fr. Eugene Gerber who later became bishop of Wichita. At some point, probably around 1980, then Fr. Gerber addressed his congregation and asked that no one leave after Mass without signing an anti-Roe vs. Wade petition. Pat had just become IIRC the first Kansas Democrat in memory or ever (?) appointed to the Federal Bench and was very angry at Fr. Gerber for asking him to sign the petition. In chambers, I told Pat that being a Catholic in good standing was even more important than being a federal judge. He disagreed and said his reaction was to become a Methodist because, as a "pro-choice" church, the Methodists could be counted on to support him. I disagreed behind closed doors in chambers and he and I still got along. The private Pat Kelly was a good guy, sadly misguided by his party vs. the Church of his youth.

Sixth, during the hearings on the Summer of Mercy cases, Pat apparently had the US Marshals haul Bishop Gerber to his court room and gave him a traditional warning that often precedes contempt citations: "If you don't comply with my orders, I hope you brought your toothbrush." He did not IIRC jail the bishop but that was another legend among the local lawyers. If Bishop Gerber had been jailed and refused to leave jail, the bishop would have been an instant hero. He stood up to Judge Kelly and became a hero on the installment plan like Joan Finny.

Seventh, while deputy US marshals may serve and protect the judiciary, they are nevertheless Executive Department employees and officials. Their leadership is appointed by the POTUS and, in 1991, that means that the ones who arrested you were George Herbert Walker Bush's goons, not Pat Kelly's. During the Summer of Mercy, Bush the Elder (whose mother Dorothy Walker Bush was a decades long national director of Planned Barrenhood) was asked at a Kennebunkport Country Club if he would intervene to help the Rescuers and he responded with contempt. Bush was once known as Congressman Rubbers and his wife Barbara is even more notorious in her love for abortion.

Eight, when you say that they wanted you to "rat out" those you had associated with in city government and Operation Rescue, you show that you are a lot closer to the Rescue mindset than you customarily indicate. Good for you!

Ninth: This entire post of yours has a high degree, indeed, an absolute credibility and most particularly the parts about Claire D and the Wichita police officer. Thanks for your effort and the story.

Tenth: You correctly state that Kelly would have been frustrated by the fact that your status did not submit you to his orders and therefore to his contempt citation.

Eleventh, the dismissal of the case against you, I take it, resulted from Justice Breyer's SCOTUS decision in NOW vs. Joseph Scheidler, dismissing that case and any RICO or KKK Act claims? I have not practiced since 2000 so I am a bit rusty. That was the sort of decision which would run a clearance sale on unjust persecution.

Twelfth, and this is a catchall. May the defamation which you unjustly suffered be the worst of your pain before you arrive in heaven an hour before the devil learns that you are dead (as we Irish like to say)! Was the unlamented Killer Tiller an actual party to your case? Why was it any of his business even if Claire D was heading his way? Were you defamed on Nightline by Kelly? If he caused your children to be taken from your custody or if he refused to allow obviously relevant testimony from the 17 year old Claire much less interfered with her freedom, The gods of the judiciary would have thrown Judge Kelly under a fast moving tractor trailer.

May God bless you and yours!

143 posted on 07/02/2014 8:23:29 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk
Working on family issues, so not a lot of time to respond. I have it under control but the paperwork is grueling, Long Term Care, mortgage and investment issues. That is my job of course, but it is different when it is family. Forgive me if I have been a bit temperamental.

I will try to give you a point by point response soon.

However, I was taken into custody under the Ku Klux Klan Act -based lawsuit, filed by George Tiller against Operation Rescue, and the restraining order Judge Kelly issued in response to that suit.

I have met Joe Scheidler several times, I even brought him in to speak in Wichita more than once. However, his RICO case was helpful but he was not directly involved in my case. I plagiarized heavily. Several good attorneys from around the country were appalled at what happened to me, and gave me lots of case citations and judicial procedure tips and pointers.

“An order can not issue forth and bind the whole world, those subject to an order must be named” For instance.

Brey and another case made it to SCOTUS while my case was pending.

“After this appeal was noticed, the Supreme Court granted certiorari in National Organization for Women v Operation Rescue 914 F.2d 582 (4th Cir. 1990), cert granted sub nom. Gray V Alexandria Women's Health Clinic, 498 U.S. 1119 (1991), and we abated this appeal. The Supreme Court's subsequent decision in Bray, 113 S. Ct 753 (1993), “radically altered” the “judicial landscape of Section 1985(3).” Town of West Hartford v. Operation Rescue, 991 F. 2nd 1039, 1045 (2nd Cir.), cert. denied, 114 S. Ct. 185 (1993). 2

144 posted on 07/02/2014 8:54:00 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: BlackElk

Another point before more I go tonight:
My mother was Father Eugene Gerber’s first parish secretary, at Blessed Sacrament Church in Wichita.
His first Parish of his own to lead.
Corny Gerber, his father, was one of my Mother’s best friends.


145 posted on 07/02/2014 8:59:23 PM PDT by Kansas58
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