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To: BlackElk
LOL
Again, go pound sand.
If it irritates you for me to be nice to you, then nice I shall be.
You have, pretty much, proven my point.
You say that you are morally obligated to IGNORE the opinions of other people.
Politics is all about the opinions of other people.
Politics is the art of the possible.

So, by your own admission, you do not belong in politics.

My advice is perfect for those who want to win.

You do not care about victory, you see this as some way to be an exhibitionist of your “perfect” soul.

So you are the one who should take up knitting or gardening. Politics does not suit you.

121 posted on 06/30/2014 10:38:28 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58; Norm Lenhart; Finny; EternalVigilance; RitaOK; Tennessee Nana; tennmountainman; ...
Kansas58:

You supported John McCain. You supported Mitt Baby-Killer and Gun Grabber Romney. You have undoubtedly supported a myriad of other losers of the same stripe. After all, they were a microscopic sliver better than their Demonrat opponents.

The actual base of the Republican Party consists of pro-lifers, moral conservatives, constitutionalists, 2nd Amendment RTKBA militants, people who want the borders closed and the illegals deported, supporters of our military in their armaments, their missions and their care as veterans, opponents of Patriot Act invasion of Americans' privacy, opponents of global-climate change fairy tales, opponents of acceptance of perverts posing as "married," people who understand von Mises and von Hayek, people who admire so much of Ayn Rand as related to traditional freedoms but not her amorality, people who understand that Gerald Ford and Bush the Elder were profound embarrassments to the party, and people as likely as not of ordinary means. Needed is early unity behind ONE candidate who is credibly committed on most of those issues and particularly life, morals, guns, borders and others of the above issues, a candidate therefore with a conservative vision and capable of articulating it to the public and a candidate who understands ground war and understands and agrees with grassroots conservatives.

Fact: The base of the GOP, as so defined, has been increasingly voting third party, write-in or abstaining. Your $$$$ buddies on Wall Street and K Street can use megabucks focused on one disgraceful excuse for a candidate after another every 4 years in POTUS races and in many governorships, senate seats and house seats. Fine, but the dollars don't vote. People do if they choose to. The "GOP base" will continue to wither and the party elite will either surrender to the base or the base will form a new party. Want our votes? Earn them the old-fashioned way by nominating candidates worth voting for.

$$$$ is only useful in air wars (wall-to-wall TV and radio advertising campaigns which keep our lamestream media enemies alive) and is especially useful when many conservatives are looking for the perfect designer candidate who is correct on everything and particularly their pet causes.

Using my current state of residence, Illinois, let's see how this worked last POTUS election. There was no primary opposition to Obozo (allegedly native son of the Chicago Machine), no governor's or other statewide officer's race, no US Senate race. This happens in most POTUS election years although US Senate races are sometimes being run. Illinois, like MISSISSIPPI and SOUTH CAROLINA and, I believe, TENNESSEE (to name three other states in question this year, allows anyone at all to vote in the GOP primary. This means an army of Demonrats marshaled by the Rahmfather Emmanuel's Chicago Machine can and do meddle in the GOP primary and often determine the outcomes. Kinda like the victory of Thad Cockroach in MISSISSIPPI, huh?

Romney, child of privilege, tapped the unlimited resources of Wall Street and K Street and the Chambers of Crony Commerce, and bombs every media outlet in the state of Illinois for about three weeks just before the primary with the alleged virtues of WonderMitt, the Superman (ubermensch???) of moderation. The only visible remaining opponent by then was Rick Santorum, social conservative, and definitely NOT a love slave of the monied interests. The state party supported Romney and is run as the GOP wing of the Chicago Machine. Doesn't matter because NO ONE pays attention to the stooges who, by arcane and veer unfair rules have guaranteed that Muffie and Skipper's grandchildren and their grandchildren will always lead the Illinois GOP in its ongoing surrender to all things Demonratic.

Santorum actually campaigned around the state unlike Mittens (who probably appeared only before the Union League Club in Chicago, which is, after all, where the $$$$ is) but was drowned out by money. OK, that's the furniture in the room. Conservatives cannot turn the $$$$ meisters into morally conservative patriots instead of obsessed greedheads. That's a given. Conservatives must turn to ground war. The GOP will NOT, for the most part, help. It is the first obstacle. Conservatives should (without wasting too much time or energy on the party) take over as many of the incredible number of vacancies in Precinct Committee positions and do it quietly, network from County to County, name delegates and smash state party "leaders." Meanwhile, they should determine to defeat Mark Nancy Boy Kirk, either at the primary or send him to defeat in the general election. He is an asset to the $$$$ crowd, an absolute embarrassment to actual Republicans, and he needs to GO.

Conservatives very much need to develop the absolute attitude that accepting campaign $$$$ from K Street and/or Wall Street, from Karl Rove (see today's major article in Politico), American Crossroads, the misnamed Main Street Coalition and their ilk is as disqualifying an event as would be a video showing the candidate sexually molesting a child. Conservatives need to flee such candidates as the moral lepers that they are.

When conservatives have destroyed the $$$$ fraternity that owns the GOP most of the time, there will be plenty of opportunity to destroy the Demonrats who will, by then, have welcomed the former GOP $$$$ boys. The GOP may or may not survive. That does not matter. There will always be some major opposition party and its name matters not.

The Federalists died not long after Washington died. Hamilton was shot in the head and killed in a duel with Aaron Burr (Jonathan Edwards' grandson and a founder of Tammany Hall). Next, the money interests organized the Whig Party around folks like Henry Clay, a tax money spender extraordinaire, who was so appreciated by that era's $$$$ crowd. The slavery issue divided and killed the Whigs. Former Whig Lincoln won with 39% of the vote in a four-way race and promptly plunged the US into the Second War for Independence. Hundreds of thousands died, the slaves were freed, billions were borrowed, the currency was debased, and the cash was sent to the $$$$ crowd of that day.

Ever since, the GOP has been the $$$$ party and merely tolerates other causes as necessary to the $$$$ interest. This nation needs a Jeffersonian and Jacksonian Party. The Demonrats have rejected their noble heritage to satisfy their bankers and others who were their traditional enemies. What have the Demonrats done about ruinous trade agreements which have destroyed private sector labor? The GOP wants to do nothing. Both parties tell the American people to go to hell while they carve up the loot between them.

The GOP can change its ways, purge the $$$$ nuisance, and address this situation or it can die like the Federalists and Whigs before us. If so, it will deserve to die and that will stop the phony Kabuki dance in which John (Hic) Coppertone Boehner and Mitchie McTurtle play act in public as though they are an actual opposition party.

Raise less corn and more hell! Right then! Right now! Right forever!

Stop contradicting yourself. If I ignore the opinions of other to avoid the temptations of the genuine evil of "human respect" and I do, then I can hardly be irritated by your being nice or anything else toward me. How you feel and act is how you feel and act. God gave you free will. Use it as you see fit and be accountable for its use.

Your advice is perfect for inanimate weather vanes. Taking a poll and conforming your attitudes to public opinion and then running to the front of the parade blasting your tuba accordingly may be many things but leadership is not one of them. We have more than enough feather-brained unprincipled opportunists in politics and we ought not to be encouraging more of them.

I care very much about victory but it has to be a real victory and preferably a total victory. If the GOP Ruling Class gives me Mitt Romney as a candidate, my answer is no. I voted for Eternal Vigilance (whom I used to argue with here when I was still in a stupefied GOP is better than Donkey state of mind). I told myself I was voting for Sarah Palin. There was no rationalization known to man or beast that could justify a vote for Romney, or Nancy Boy Kirk, or my whore Congresscritter (creature of Eric Cantor) Adam Kinzinger. Or the Congressthing next door, Paul Ryan. I freed myself and got the elephant off my back.

128 posted on 07/01/2014 2:55:46 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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