Ran across this little tidbit while researching manson/Beachboys/ Subud: In a speech to about four hundred in Detroit Dorn spoke of the Manson murders , raised two fingers, as she commented about the fork stuck in the “pigs”! Thus the “peace” sign was originated ! Those in the know knew it wasn’t about peace !
It's interesting that the Beach Boys were pals with Manson. They're lucky they didn't end up like Sharon Tate.