Posted on 06/25/2014 2:07:57 PM PDT by cdga5for4
Edited on 06/25/2014 2:12:29 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Congressional investigators have uncovered emails showing that a former Internal Revenue Service official at the heart of the tea party investigation sought an audit of a Republican senator in December 2012.
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“And it’s ABC reporting this?”
I’m sure they were coming from the Grassley is guilty angle.
No that was IRS commissioner Douglas Shulman, a real self righteous P$@#k.
re. David L. Fish (cc’d in email chain: http://htmlimg3.scribdassets.com/78silxp0zk3wbwnu/images/1-26050b815d.jpg)
The IRS Scandal’s Smoking Gun?
A suspicious email could confirm Lois Lerner’s culpability in recent IRS abuses.
April 16, 2014
In a rash of documents provided under the Freedom of Information Act to Judicial Watch, a non-partisan public interest law group, is an April 2013 email written by David Fish, acting manager of IRS Exempt Organizations Technical Guidance and Quality Assurance and sent to, among others, former IRS Director of Exempt Organizations Lois Lerner. It was part of a thread discussing a recent U.S. Senate hearing on the potential for the abuse of the 501(c)(4) tax status by organizations intervening inappropriately or improperly in candidate elections.
Responding to a message “What can I say?” from Lerner, Fish responds, “Tell Ruth she needs to get on the stick and that the next election cycle is around the corner. This is obviously a wonderful idea (that’s why we suggested it). I think you told Greg all you can tell him, unless you want to tell him that we’re taking guidance plan suggestions.”
The email is dated April 15, 2013 – well after initial allegations that the IRS had “slow-walked” the applications of conservative groups had been made and, by the agency, denied.
The “Ruth” mentioned in the message refers to Ruth Madrigal, an official at the U.S. Treasury Department. The “Greg” mentioned in Fish’s message is apparently a San Francisco-based attorney named Gregory Colvin, who started this chain with an e-mail to Lerner and Madrigal letting them know he has just testified before the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Terrorism on the issue of whether officers of (c)(4) organizations who made false statements under penalty of perjury on tax returns “could be criminally prosecuted.”
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The particular mention by Fish of the idea that “the next election cycle is around the corner” seems to any reasonable person to confirm or at least suggest higher-ups at the IRS including Lerner knew exactly what they were doing, had used their positions for partisan political purposes, and were continuing to do so even though the word about what they were doing had leaked out.
“The David Fish email proves the IRS originated and fed to Senate Democrats the idea of threatening conservatives with criminal prosecution for engaging in political speech – specifically with an eye towards the 2014 cycle. It’s the strongest proof yet that there should indeed be criminal prosecutions, not of conservatives but of the IRS bureaucrats who conspired to suppress them,” said Phil Kerpen, the president of American Commitment and one who has followed this issue closely since it first become public knowledge.
Interestingly, sources close to the House Committee on Ways and Means, one of the congressional panels looking into the issue, is not at all certain the document containing the Fish email was given to the panel subsequent to a rather broad, comprehensive subpoena of the IRS.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3172288/posts?page=22#22
Speculation on HOW issa’s committee knew about it:
either
someone on that To: list gave the email to issa’s committee
Or
Someone obtained the email by other means, and gave it to issa’s committee.
E-x-c-e-l-l-e-n-t take. And who else might have had access to the US mails that "accidentally" landed on Lerner's desk?
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The overriding question is ----- why target Sen Grassley at all?
Consider that the vindictive lawless WH occupier went on jihad against Grassley for one reason. Sen Grassley was interfering w/ vote-crazed Oabma's plans to inundate America w/ illegal Democrat voters.
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American Patriot Grassley tried to protect Americans w/ his amendment to the Senate amnesty bill: "Congress should not thumb its nose at the millions of Americans who are victims of identity theft, often perpetrated by an undocumented person who steals Social Security numbers to get jobs, govt benefits, driver's licenses and more.
"This amendment would simply require the person applying for RPI status to disclose any previously used Social Security numbers," said Grassley. "It's the first step to helping clean up the mess that's been created for the victim of identity theft. The amendment also authorizes certain federal agencies, upon receipt of this information, to notify individuals who were the victims."
IS SEN SCHUMER COMPLICIT IN THE IRS/OBAMA CONSPIRACY AGAINST SEN GRASSLEY?: Dismissing Sen Grassley's proposal to protect Americans, Sen Schumer (Dem-NY) said: "When people are living in undocumented status, there are times, I suppose, when they've made up identities, made up Social Security numbers. How are they going to remember all that? (The) purpose of this bill is to bring people out of the shadows. We all know when they lived in the shadows, they had to forge documents, forge Social Security numbers, et cetera. I just don't see how, when you've lived here 10 years, and you've had many different identities, many different numbers, you're going to remember them all," said Schumer.
Maggief,
Thanks for the answer as to how some of the emails surfaced. (FOIA request )
Its possible the grassley one was in amongst that batch.
LucyT,
Another to ping-out!
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Lerner "accidentally" receiving....and opening ....US mail addressed to Sen Grassley is a federal offense----in legal terms: tampering with US mail. Mail tampering refers to the willful theft, destruction or opening of the mail of another person without their consent.
The moral equivalent of the Watergate break-in.
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REFERENCE----mail tampering is a crime punishable by incarceration, fines, or a term of probation. Within these individual United States, tampering with the mail may be a crime under state laws; however, mail fraud is a federal crime. The exact definition will vary by jurisdiction, but "tampering" generally includes opening, destroying, damaging, or interfering with mail intended for another person.
Under most states laws within the United States, mail is considered private property. As such, an individual has an expectation of privacy attached to his or her mail. When another person breaches that expectation of privacy, he or she may be guilty of mail tampering.
State laws differ, but in most cases, no one is allowed to open mail intended for another person. In many cases, even members of the same household cannot open mail addressed to another person in the same house. State statutes do frequently make an exception for United States Postal workers or other carriers if they are acting in good faith when opening the mail as part of their job.
Destroying, damaging, or interfering with the mail are also often considered mail tampering. For instance, removing mail from someone's mailbox or throwing mail away that is intended for another person may amount to a crime. Under most state statutes, tampering with the mail is a misdemeanor and is punishable by a term of imprisonment of up to a year or two.
Thanks for the post; ping; thread. BUMP!
“the next election cycle is around the corner.”
Something that shouldn’t matter in the IRS world,,but clearly does.
Mr. Grassley had to sign a waiver for the latest emails to be released. The Ways and Means Committee was able to obtain them under its special powers as the chief tax-writing panel in Congress.
The emails don’t identify the organization that issued the invitations to Mr. Grassley and Ms. Lerner, but whatever it was, it appears to have been too controversial for Ms. Lerner’s taste.
“Don’t think I want to be on stage with Grassley on this issue,” she wrote in closing out the email chain.
Looks like a set up Was the company issueing the invite a philosophical friend of 0 or LL
Austinaero wrote:
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“the next election cycle is around the corner.”
Something that shouldn’t matter in the IRS world,,but clearly does.”
89 posted on Thu Jun 26 2014 08:04:16 GMT-0500 (CDT) by austinaero [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | View Replies | Report Abuse]
Austinaero,
You hit the nail on the head!!!!
The only reason the IRS lady would be interested in the election is if she was helping 0!!!!
Woah.
We need to know the name of who sent the invite. Was it a set up by 0 / LL friend? ( who just happened to send a duplicate to LL ). Or are they intercepting mail as well as cell phone calls thru an illegal wire tap as was done to the FOX journalist?
When a politician orders the irs to audit, that is a crime. It is using the power of the irs illegally. The irs can destroy a person. The stress of an audit can ruin a person’s health. This is a crime.
I will never back down from that statement.
Good point...
Prolly that and more.....much more.
I haven't seen any of this in the news stories... (surprise surprise) but it's important... Good catch.
I was just banned from sfgate.com (San Francisco Chronicle) for posting excerpts from news stories about Lerner that they refuse to cover. Yay!!!
I think it’s crucial to investigate why they considered Grassley a dangeer to “the next election cycle.”
As I posted above, Grassley was trying to protect Americans——but Team Obama obviously considered this an attempt to thwart his election schemes......that they actually committed a federal offense to stop him.
Shades of Watergate.
Sometimes I have hope the press will wake up and do their job... other times I'm just embarrassed for them. You would think the Washington Post would step up...
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