Posted on 06/24/2014 9:19:07 AM PDT by PoloSec
When Iraq, in concert with their Iranian and Russian allies, finally clean out ISIS their next target will be the Kurds. Obama will not care.
Yes. Just compare where the Sunnis stand now compared to 2009 in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya and, until several months ago, Egypt.
The Sunnis are making great progress under the "leadership" of Obama. Egypt was a setback. But be assured, the Caliphate is, slowly but surely, reemerging.
It wasn’t on TV so 0bungles didn’t hear about it.
Seems like JonF’nKerry b stuk in Iraqu.
THAT will be the deal breaker... always assuming this administration is capable of making/holding to agreements of ANY kind with leaders IN or OUT of the ME!
HOWEVER, given the track record of this President, it is always entirely possible that, for whatever reason (or for NO reason at all) any perfectly sound and logical plan for US involvement/non involvement will be turned into a dog's breakfast by this a$# hat in the White House. This is what you get when you put treasonous and un vetted idiots in power.
Thanks for that info—velly intellesting!
obama is not disengaged, but probably working to help help ISIS behind the scenes any way he can, so I doubt there will be any serious military action that would, in reality, damage their cause. Whatever he does will be designed for public consumption so he can claim to be helping, while really doing nothing. We will probably see pictures of bombs harmlessly going off in the desert or on abandoned buildings. They are just trying to figure out how to stage the illusion.
The Kurds in Syria (separate from the KRG) already had "put together an impressive fighting force to defend its territory from . . . ISIS"
This has some interesting information about the current events in Iraq. IMO.
". . . Ankara has entered into energy deals with the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG), something which has infuriated the central Iraqi government in Baghdad but which has helped the Kurds further build a foundation for their independence [yes true that] Ankara has been so alarmed by the growing Kurdish autonomy [in Syria and tolerated by Syria, I believe] that it reportedly has provided support for [ISIS] in their fight against the Kurdish militia that controls the region [of Syria],which is affiliated with the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)." [my emphasis]
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". . . the takeover by ISIS in recent days of Mosul and other cities . . . Ankara will likely not only have to deepen its relationship with the KRG . . . but also alter its approach to the Kurds in Syria"
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"Explains Lehigh University professor and Turkey expert Henri Barkey in an analysis piece on Al-Monitor website: The crisis may force the Turks to rethink some of their policies in Syria. To date, Ankara’s friendship with the Kurds stopped in Iraq; Erdogan and his government have taken an uncompromising position against Syrian Kurds led by the Democratic Union Party of Kurdistan (PYD), an offshoot of the Turkish Kurdish insurgent group the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK). The PYD has emerged as the strongest Kurdish group in Syria and has put together an impressive fighting force to defend its territory from both ISIS and the regime. The idea of another autonomous Kurdish region on its borders after the KRG has been anathema to Ankara. Paradoxically, the PYD’s armed elements are some of the only ones that have scored blows against the jihadists. In the face of the ISIS sweep, the PYD and the KRG, which have also had antagonistic relations, appear to be cooperating on defensive measures against ISIS. Turkey may have to reconsider its boycott of the Syrian Kurds to enlarge the anti-ISIS coalition." [my emphasis]
While the origin and basis for the current strength of ISIS in Iraq can be laid squarely at the feet of the Iraqi prime minister, Maliki, due to the Shia partisan functioning of his regime and how it has helped young Sunni men and some Sunni tribal leaders to make alliances with ISIS, for now, it also shows ISIS understood the many weaknesses of the Iraqi government better than did the Obama administration of at least better than the Obama White House was willing to admit.
At this juncture I think there is only one set of people and forces the U.S. should aid in countering ISIS - the Kurds. The rest of Iraq ought to be left dependent on Arab Iraqi Shia and Sunni reaching their own accommodations, or not.
bkmk
baraq: “my muslim faith”.
Guess he meant it.
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Politically and economically stable? Americans unlikely to get killed there? Kurdistan? It’s just in the whey.
Oh, but now they’re playing catch-up:
Kerry to Kurds: Help Save Iraq from Total Collapse
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/296405#.U6qkw4aQbQo
You don’t have to be an expert or even do a lot of studying to figure out that this is the way many, if not most, of the men in Iraq, and even in Afghanistan, behave. They quickly and easily change allegiances as a survival tool.
To say the WH did not expect this is laughable.
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Huge surprise, eh?
Since Zero and Plugs want to normalize relations with Iran, anything that potentially benefits Iran — like not actually supporting anyone trying to overthrow Assad, or like not doing anything to stop a new jihadist group attempting to destroy some others trying to overthrow Assad, or like getting 30 year old sanctions lifted and releasing billions to the mullahs, or like helping Iran’s client Hamas back onto its feet, or like a laissez-faire approach to Iranian nuclear bomb projects — shouldn’t come as any surprise.
Thanks PoloSec.
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