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1 posted on 06/23/2014 4:10:32 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I read the article. It’s the “we’re incompetent” defense.

Lerner’s taking the Fifth is a bigger barrier than it first appeared, because she can’t be asked what her memory is as to who she emailed. If she could, their computer drives and servers could be searched. But, if she answered the question honestly ( a stretch, I know) she’d be a dead woman, not walking for long.


2 posted on 06/23/2014 4:14:56 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Q: Will the New York Times print anything that remotely runs counter to the administration narrative that this was just a horrible mistake?

A: No way in Hell.


3 posted on 06/23/2014 4:17:03 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Last week Jay Carney said “We found zero emails – sorry to disappoint ... “

Equivocation and sarcasm—he’s not saying they don’t exist, just that `we’ didn’t find any, and phony regret.
Lyin’ looser.


4 posted on 06/23/2014 4:18:43 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Did Lerner have a Blackberry or smart phone, synced to her email?

If so, her emails are on other servers.


5 posted on 06/23/2014 4:19:47 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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The IRS should be held to the same record keeping standards that they impose on taxpayers. If any business under IRS audit gave the lame excuse that their records just happened to be lost by a hard drive crash and that there was both no back up and the physical hard drive just happened to be destroyed, the executives would be under quick indictment for obstructing justice, plus any other punishment the IRS could come up with. IRS officials should all be tried for obstructing justice.


6 posted on 06/23/2014 4:21:41 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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Appoint a special prosecuter charge them with obstruction then make them give their excuses in court to a jury.


8 posted on 06/23/2014 4:23:58 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Truly unbelievable. Government at all levels has offsite backup of emails. If they were erased by someone, it must have been that someone wanted to expunge a trail of dirty tricks.


9 posted on 06/23/2014 4:24:22 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’d expect nothing less from the NYT, but this is not going to fly either. It’s sweet sounding bullshit, but it’s still bullshit and nobody is going to believe it any more than they believed the Watergate erasures.


10 posted on 06/23/2014 4:24:35 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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While I would love for these emails to be found and made public it simply won’t matter in the end.

These people, all of them, operate above and outside of the law and absolutely nothing will happen to anyone. They could have video tape of Obama and Lerner actually planning out the targeting of Tea Party groups and it STILL wouldn’t matter. NOBODY WILL BE PUNISHED FOR THIS... EVER.

It really is the case that ONLY we peasants must obey the law.


15 posted on 06/23/2014 4:28:31 PM PDT by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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Evidently “Congress” isn’t involved, only “republicans”.

Q. Why do Congressional investigators want the emails?

A. Republicans say they want to determine whether the I.R.S. continued to delay applications..........

A huge portion of the article is the last question, when the democrats get their big response.


16 posted on 06/23/2014 4:30:10 PM PDT by ansel12 (( Rand Paul---What a tragedy if America wouldn't have gotten to see Barack Obama as a leader.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A: Horse s-


19 posted on 06/23/2014 4:41:32 PM PDT by servo1969
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The New York Slimes! So reliable. I loved their Q&A on the Holocaust released way back when

Q - Are Jews facing persecution in Germany?
A - No

Q - What are the camps where Jews are being sent for?
A - Character and team building

Q - Is Hitler a tyrnat?
A - Of course not

Courtesy of the slimesters


21 posted on 06/23/2014 5:02:13 PM PDT by Viennacon
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Even if Ms. Lerner’s hard drive crashed, how could her emails have just disappeared? Weren’t they backed up?

A. Apparently not, at least not permanently. Before it changed its storage policies last year, the I.R.S. backed up emails onto old-fashioned tape drives. Every six months, it would reuse those tapes, thus erasing the previous batch.


Lies.

I’ve been using one form or another of email since the late 1980’s. There is no such thing as c drive email storage except where one might back up archive stuff. I used it a bit back when outlook was limited. But even then, the company had their own backups, partly because they were REQUIRED BY LAW to save them.

At this time, only a fool would believe incompetence is the reason these emails were not backed up, or even that they were not backed up.

This whole thing is a test to see just how gullible we are.


23 posted on 06/23/2014 5:02:22 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Get from her blackberry?


27 posted on 06/23/2014 5:45:34 PM PDT by databoss
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You only need to ask the IRSA commissioner one question:

When your computer crashed, did you or did you not call the FBI and ask them to send over their computer forensic experts to retrieve the information?

Since the IRS was under investigation by the congress, it would have been and is obvious that it was a matter of utmost urgency that the justice department would be informed and an attempt made to recover the information.

So did the IRS ask for help or not?

“Not” would imply willful action to destroy or at the very least hide evidence.


30 posted on 06/23/2014 6:17:13 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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Q. Will this dead-end and roadblock have consequences?

A. We’ll find out in November.


33 posted on 06/23/2014 7:32:25 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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Tried to get some answers from my nephew, a twenty year government IT person, at party over the weekend - says the IRS and most government agencies don’t use the general internet but their own internal system - thus usual backups on public servers aren’t available - said the backup system probably used in their system involved a bank of seven tapes, but that data was written to them in pretty much a random order so that it would be hard to go back and track items according to any set criteria - said the data would have been overwritten eventually, but that the system is so poor that new tapes never used before often are defective - all that having been said, he still thinks the emails were deliberately disappeared......


34 posted on 06/23/2014 9:19:21 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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A. Last week Jay Carney said “We found zero emails – sorry to disappoint – between Lois Lerner and anyone within the E.O.P. during this period,” he said, using shorthand for the Executive Office of the President.

Does this mean that he checked the White House servers for any of Lois' emails?

And if her computer crashed BEFORE the offsite backup service was canceled, why was she unable to secure the backup copies?

And what sort of communications were there about concern for any lost communications?

If you lose your computer, your current workload will suffer because ALL of your communication has been lost.

What evidence has been provided to show this concern with daily operations?

35 posted on 06/24/2014 4:43:50 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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