Posted on 06/23/2014 4:10:32 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
Q. Even if Ms. Lerner’s hard drive crashed, how could her emails have just disappeared? Weren’t they backed up?
A. Apparently not, at least not permanently. Before it changed its storage policies last year, the I.R.S. backed up emails onto old-fashioned tape drives. Every six months, it would reuse those tapes, thus erasing the previous batch.
Q. Oh come on. Really? Even my Gmail account archives everything.
A. Many government agencies and big corporations still use older email systems that aren’t in the “cloud” the way that Gmail is. They may have tens of thousands of employees, as the I.R.S. does, making them slow to modernize.
Q. These I.R.S. investigations have been going on for more than a year, and Ms. Lerner’s hard drive crashed three years ago. Why are we just hearing about these lost emails now?
A. Republicans in Congress want to know the same thing.
Q. What is the White House saying about all of this?
A. Last week Jay Carney said “We found zero emails – sorry to disappoint – between Lois Lerner and anyone within the E.O.P. during this period,” he said, using shorthand for the Executive Office of the President.
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The New York Slimes! So reliable. I loved their Q&A on the Holocaust released way back when
Q - Are Jews facing persecution in Germany?
A - No
Q - What are the camps where Jews are being sent for?
A - Character and team building
Q - Is Hitler a tyrnat?
A - Of course not
Courtesy of the slimesters
Interesting proposition. But, aren’t there a lot of private sector email providers, both free and paid? Too many to search?
Even if Ms. Lerner’s hard drive crashed, how could her emails have just disappeared? Weren’t they backed up?
A. Apparently not, at least not permanently. Before it changed its storage policies last year, the I.R.S. backed up emails onto old-fashioned tape drives. Every six months, it would reuse those tapes, thus erasing the previous batch.
I’ve been using one form or another of email since the late 1980’s. There is no such thing as c drive email storage except where one might back up archive stuff. I used it a bit back when outlook was limited. But even then, the company had their own backups, partly because they were REQUIRED BY LAW to save them.
At this time, only a fool would believe incompetence is the reason these emails were not backed up, or even that they were not backed up.
This whole thing is a test to see just how gullible we are.
Your blackberry settings were most likely pushed out from the blackberry server, not from RIM. There may be some logging on the BB server, but chances aren’t good that they go back very far.
The IP address may well be office wide and not each individual computer but it still hugely narrows down all the Email addresses connected to that office. Many can be eliminated once found leaving Lerners. Then after that, it would have likely been Web mail which uses a browser to access. Browsers often leaves a unique signature that the Webmail hosting company would have logged.
So much more likely than you might think.
There are not that many free Webmail hosts. It is mostly a matter of will to pursue it.
Get from her blackberry?
Just ask the Koch brothers or some other deep pockets conservatives to offer a $1 million reward for a “forensic IT solution” to the problem.
$1 million, tax free, of course, anonymously and a Mossad managed witness protection program safe haven.
Any patriotic IT sleuths with backbone and .... um... the cajones?
Q-”Is Stalin starving Ukrainians.”
A-”No. He put the entire country of Ukraine on a diet because they were all very fat.”
You only need to ask the IRSA commissioner one question:
When your computer crashed, did you or did you not call the FBI and ask them to send over their computer forensic experts to retrieve the information?
Since the IRS was under investigation by the congress, it would have been and is obvious that it was a matter of utmost urgency that the justice department would be informed and an attempt made to recover the information.
So did the IRS ask for help or not?
“Not” would imply willful action to destroy or at the very least hide evidence.
they have some of lerners blackberry emails from right after her drive crashed
Felony obstruction of justice.
Q. Will this dead-end and roadblock have consequences?
A. We’ll find out in November.
Tried to get some answers from my nephew, a twenty year government IT person, at party over the weekend - says the IRS and most government agencies don’t use the general internet but their own internal system - thus usual backups on public servers aren’t available - said the backup system probably used in their system involved a bank of seven tapes, but that data was written to them in pretty much a random order so that it would be hard to go back and track items according to any set criteria - said the data would have been overwritten eventually, but that the system is so poor that new tapes never used before often are defective - all that having been said, he still thinks the emails were deliberately disappeared......
Does this mean that he checked the White House servers for any of Lois' emails?
And if her computer crashed BEFORE the offsite backup service was canceled, why was she unable to secure the backup copies?
And what sort of communications were there about concern for any lost communications?
If you lose your computer, your current workload will suffer because ALL of your communication has been lost.
What evidence has been provided to show this concern with daily operations?
hang on... all those email boxes of other people somehow lost emails from Lois Lerner? How did the recipients lose those received emails?
That’s the question I’m trying to raise, plenty of people involved in the chain of communications, funny how the focus is on one participant’s “lost” computer. Plenty of other places to find copies of the emails.
Also I want to see what kind of emails came up AFTER the crash when she requested a new computer and had to explain to everyone why her work was backlogging because day to day operations emails had been lost (allegedly).
Exactly, their story doesn’t make any sense.
Right. Things still on her BB device.
Good point DB...
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