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To: Gaffer

There is nothing citizens can do to the IRS peacefully that will change them one bit. They are America’s extra constitutional secret police. There are two avenues available to us to eliminate the IRS. One is the Article V CoS the other of course is Congress. I am a great believer in a national retail sales tax. Set constitutionally at say 10%. The income tax amendment would be repealed and income and property tax outlawed. Additionally, we must strip the ability of congress to write tax law. That is, they cannot change the constitutionally mandated sales tax rate or establish any other taxes. You and I know the above is pie in the sky so the easiest way to essentially get rid of the IRS is to go to a flat income tax of say 10%. Then eliminate the IRS. They would no longer be needed as currently constituted.


32 posted on 06/22/2014 8:14:48 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Nuc 1.1

I agree, but think we should strip all right of the federal
gansta to raise any funds, thats where all this crap started, states should be required to have balanced budgets, anything left over that states want to donate for federal projects should be how the fed operates>>if we dont cut them off we are toast..


133 posted on 06/22/2014 3:54:02 PM PDT by aces (Jesus Saves not Society)
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To: Nuc 1.1

I say a flat tax on income. percentage.

same whether you make $100,000 or $10,000.

Make the poor have a vested interest in taxes.

Then we’ll see some change.


165 posted on 06/23/2014 2:25:00 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Nuc 1.1
You and I know the above is pie in the sky so the easiest way to essentially get rid of the IRS is to go to a flat income tax of say 10%. Then eliminate the IRS. They would no longer be needed as currently constituted.

Yup. The Lord only asks for 10%. How can the government legitimately demand more.

However, you are mistaken in saying that having a flat tax would eliminate the need for the IRS. You are apparently unaware of how much of the current tax core relates to nothing more than determining exactly what constitutes 'income'. You'd still need the unconstitutional army of vampires sucking the life-blood out of the country even with a 'flat' tax. You'd also still have the Constitution-busting reporting requirements as well.

What is needed is a flat 10% sales tax. You eliminate all IRS forms for individuals. The vast majority of infrastructure for collecting a sales tax is already in place. Make the tax consumptive, and remove the perverse disincentives for growth and success and you'd see a new golden age in this country.

Yeah, I'm sure the government would come up with a way to make the tax as inefficient and as stifling as possible (see VAT), but it would still be better than what we have.

179 posted on 06/23/2014 8:23:26 AM PDT by zeugma (It is time for us to start playing cowboys and muslims for real now.)
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