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1 posted on 06/18/2014 8:30:13 AM PDT by woofie
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It's beginning to look like we should never go into any war ever, ever, as the Left has made WINNING a war a no-no....Korea, Nam, Afghanistan, Iraq, no clear-cut victories here, as in Japan and Germany. The Left wants no clear-cut victories, and it's getting what it wants.

To the Left, absence of war means no blood, no bodies, no breaking things, no winners/no losers, no expense, no competitiveness....and mandated perpetual peace in a world of equality, unicorns and rainbows.

And now, because we're not allowed to win wars anymore, the Left is winning the political battle, because more and more Americans don't want to sacrifice treasure and young warriors in one useless combat after another....and these Americans are actually now on the same side as the lefties and peaceniks for a different reason.

My head hurts......

Leni

29 posted on 06/18/2014 9:05:43 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Monster BHO uses illegal children for political agenda while accusing Right of doing same.)
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Beck is an idiot. Iraq was won by the time the Obama took office. Just because Obama snatched defeat from the jaws of victory does not make the liberals right. If Beck is serious about this, then he’s an idiot. It’s not as if he has any experience in foreign affairs anyways...


30 posted on 06/18/2014 9:07:01 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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Although I like his Blaze News, much of his radio show on Sirius Patriot is irrelevant banter. Yesterday, when he brought up the subject of body fluids, I switched to another station faster than you can say Steve Sarkesian.

I wish they would replace him with Laura Ingraham, who ruled morning talk radio in this area about a decade ago, or with Jed Babbin.


33 posted on 06/18/2014 9:09:04 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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It is inaccurate for Beck to claim that liberals were against the war before it began.

I seem to remember liberals voting for the war, then, and only then, did they start to say we shouldn't have gone to war using the "bush lied people died" BS meme.

34 posted on 06/18/2014 9:10:31 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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Beck is wrong that Democrats were against the war. They were all-in going back to the 90’s. You have to get to about 2005 before you start getting the real hard-core anti-War stuff from the Democrats.

However, I think that if you look at where we are today, right now: I think that he is right that when you take the entire adventure in full - including the Democrat’s forced failure since 2006 all of the way to current Obama policies - it has been a total, and utter, waste of money and men.

If time had stopped in 2008 then I would have a different opinion, but that is a mental luxury.

Our failure was thinking that Democrats care more for Party than Country. They do not. With the fortune of hind-sight; we never should have started in 2003.

But, hey - everyone is a genius in hind-sight and I never saw Obama coming in 2003. If I had known then what I know now.... oh, my....

(We did, however, get some Grade-A training and lessons on insurgent fighting and we got some great advancements in battle gear and weapons because of it, but that’s not enough.)


38 posted on 06/18/2014 9:18:53 AM PDT by Noamie
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No more American blood or treasure!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkyEtw8lBtI


41 posted on 06/18/2014 9:22:45 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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FU Beck. You phony huckster.

In 1998 100% of the Senate and Bill Clinton agreed Sadaam would be removed by any means necessary.

The Democrats can’t claim immunity on this issue.

In fact, it was damned near unanimous in 2002 to follow through on that commitment.

Punk.


50 posted on 06/18/2014 9:37:06 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Dear Glenn,

STFU

To say the liberals were right about Iraq is absurd. They undermined the peace after Saddam was successfully removed from power. Just like nam.


51 posted on 06/18/2014 9:40:02 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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We were right to go in. We should have established a strong man to keep the nuts art bay...someone like Sadat or Mubarak who was friendly to the west....

Yes, it might have meant a less-than-ideal nation as far as “looking like America”, but it WOULD have been a safer region and given hope to freedom loving elements in Iran.

Bush didn’t blow it—Obama did.


59 posted on 06/18/2014 10:16:29 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Hindsight may be 20/20 but it is hindsight and does not reveal what might have been. And it makes little difference because we will continue to make the same decisions and hope this time the results will be different. That has been going on for years and thus the mess we in in today.


61 posted on 06/18/2014 10:20:59 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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What happens when Iran, Iraq and the rest of the middle east declare war on America and has 1 billion trained terrorists?


67 posted on 06/18/2014 12:17:12 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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