Such humility!
Why is that DSC? Because any example of such bigotry must be crap and cannot possibly meet the high criteria you have for what qualifies as "bigotry"? You can't give a yes or no answer because you already DO realize that crap goes on here by your fellow Papists a lot of times and you refuse to acknowledge it since it would show your utter duplicity and hypocrisy on the subject. What started this so-called challenge of yours was your adamant and outraged insistence that anti-Catholic bigotry ran rampant here and Catholics were being picked on by "Protestant" Freepers with impunity and you poor persecuted Catholics NEVER lashed out with such against Protestants. Daniel1212 FreepMailed you a list and you balked at them.
You continue to make that same claim and refuse to see what a sane, objective, sufficiently intelligent person does. How laughable that you say you now will deign to consider whether such a posted comment qualifies as bigotry! I guarantee that if a non-Catholic had said those words you would have jumped on it like white on rice and decried anew your claims of persecution FRoman Catholics have to endure on this site. What a joke!
A Catholic said those EXACT words about "Protestants", here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3168037/posts?page=267#267. No doubt because they came from a Catholic TOWARDS a Protestant, it will NOT be seen as an example of bigotry and that very denial will demonstrate, once again, that you are incapable of charity OR objectivity. I don't have to back you into a corner, you did that all on your lonesome.
Papist is a (usually disparaging) term or an anti-Catholic slur, referring to the Roman Catholic Church, its teachings, practices, or adherents.
I am qualified because I defend my faith against your lies and superstitions often. I catch you in obfuscation of the Holy Scripture with great regularity. Bigotry is hatred before knowledge; mine is denial because of knowledge. I know your pitiful theology and because I know it I resent it.
Why did you drag Daniel in here, by the way? If my post offended anyone it should have been BlueDragon.
“Such humility!”
Yes. I often fail to maintain humility in the face of willful, obdurate ignorance and/or stupidity. I know that this is a grievous failing, and I know that the stupid cannot help it, so I usually cut them all kinds of slack. It is when they insist, forcefully, that their stupidity is wisdom that they get my goat. Mea culpa. I will answer to God for that.
The willfully ignorant, likewise, arouse a desire to help them, but the attempt to do so is usually met with wrong-headed, wrong-hearted nastiness. My sympathy for them quickly erodes.
“Because any example of such bigotry must be crap and cannot possibly meet the high criteria you have for what qualifies as “bigotry?”
No, because I recognize bigotry when I see it. Frequent reality checks down the decades continue to affirm the accuracy of my opinion. Your opinion is erroneous. It’s as simple as that.
For all I know you may be an excellent judge of, oh, racial bigotry for instance, but not on this subject.
“You can’t give a yes or no answer”
Have you stopped beating your wife yet? Yes or no.
“because you already DO realize that crap goes on here by your fellow Papists a lot of times”
That notion derives from your blind spot WRT religious bigotry.
“What started this so-called challenge of yours was your adamant and outraged insistence that anti-Catholic bigotry ran rampant here”
Tell the TV audience—is that a lie, have you forgotten, or did you never know?
What started this decade’s iteration of this discussion was my calm assertion—since borne out by the failure to produce contrary evidence—that anti-Protestant bigotry does *not* run rampant here.
The strategy of Satan’s side in this debate has been to try and reframe it as you describe. That would have the effect of putting the burden of proof on me, which is why Satan’s side decided that lying would advantage them here.
“Catholics were being picked on by “Protestant” Freepers with impunity”
There is no need to put the word “Protestant” in quotation marks, unless you mean to imply that those arguing Satan’s position here are not Protestants at all. So, what would that make them?
“and you poor persecuted Catholics NEVER lashed out with such against Protestants.”
No, there again you utilize Satan’s strategy of restating my position into something more easily discredited.
My policy is to avoid using the word “never” as much as possible. What I said was that nothing Catholics had said even approached the offensiveness of what Protestants had said, OWTTE.
“Daniel1212 FreepMailed you a list and you balked at them.”
I recognized that none of them constituted, or even approached, bigotry. Try memorizing this phrase: “legitimate difference of religious opinion.” Don’t be too upset that you don’t understand it. We can hope *that* will come later.
“refuse to see what a sane, objective, sufficiently intelligent person does.”
Some Protestants on FR lack the slightest scintilla of objectivity on this subject.
“How laughable that you say you now will deign to consider whether such a posted comment qualifies as bigotry!”
Well, *somebody* has to try and open your eyes, and I have a thick skin.
“I guarantee that if a non-Catholic had said those words you would have jumped on it like white on rice”
Those on Satan’s side of this debate have tried various childish stratagems in the effort to trick me into just that. In all cases I have replied honestly that the examples you hoped would provoke me did not constitute bigotry.
“No doubt because they came from a Catholic TOWARDS a Protestant, it will NOT be seen as an example of bigotry”
No doubt I will consider the matter honestly and objectively.
The accepted definition of bigotry is this: “Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats or views other people with fear, distrust or hatred.” (I went with Wiki because this definition has undergone at least some public review.)
Let’s consider the statement you offer in this light.
“It is also possible that the anti-Catholic hounds of the mass media just did a thorough and honest investigation without any bias whatsoever and are now reporting it. But somehow I still think that ducks quack, Protestants lie and obfuscate to defend their pitiful superstitions, and the left wing media keeps doing what it is designed to do: produce hoaxes.”
Does this statement reflect fear, distrust or hatred of other people?
Not in and of itself. Those things have to be read into it by the observer.
Not stopping there, though, let’s look a little closer.
An assertion that the statement reflects fear can be dismissed out of hand. There’s just no “there” there.
An assertion that it reflects distrust, however, would at first blush seem to have a bit more substance. After all, the speaker obviously believes that at least some of the Protestants’ interpretations of Scripture and resulting beliefs are mistaken. That might be taken as distrust of their judgment.
Why, though, is that not a legitimate difference of religious opinion? Every believer thinks that his religious beliefs are correct—or at least more correct than others—or those would not be his beliefs. I don’t see that it’s likely to spill over into the real world. There’s no indication that the speaker does not extend to others the right to be wrong. Absent that, the charge of bigotry is not supported.
Lastly, how about “hatred?” That’s one of the most popular accusations in America today. Any failure of enthusiastic endorsement can only be due to hatred, as long as the subject is one of the left’s pet causes.
But does this statement really reflect hatred? The object is “pitiful superstitions.” Does that sound like something the speaker hates, or something for which he has contempt? It might even reflect pity, especially given that the word “pitiful” was chosen.
A Protestant might say, “It’s still offensive,” and I would agree that a reasonable person might be offended. But contempt and pity are not hatred, and this does not support the charge of bigotry.
You might try again, but I’m getting awfully tired of this and might not answer.