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FBI: Valrico 'Doomsday prepper' still at large
Bay News 9 ^ | Tuesday, June 17, 2014, 5:58 AM | Jason Lanning

Posted on 06/17/2014 3:41:05 AM PDT by rarestia

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To: glorgau

Was the plan written? Recorded? Or just statements?

While I never specifically commented on that particular phrasing, I have no way to believe the recounting of the ‘plans’ is legitimate. Just more ‘evidence’ of dubious provenance.


21 posted on 06/17/2014 4:32:45 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: driftdiver

12 gauge shotgun bores are bigger than .5” What is so special about that number?


22 posted on 06/17/2014 4:33:34 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Sounds like the Southern Poverty Law Center has stuck their nose in.

Since the jug eared clown in the WH has been actively, as in full bore, ginning up dissent in the American people for the last month you can bet there will be more.


23 posted on 06/17/2014 4:35:17 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Gaffer

The link to the indictment is on one of the earlier threads. Its in the article not the thread. Will see if I can find it.

I’m not an expert but I think the .5 inch limit is written into law. Not sure how the 12 gauge is different except its not a rifle caliber.


24 posted on 06/17/2014 4:36:22 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Gaffer

From this thread - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3168625/posts

The Search Warrant application - http://archive.wtsp.com/assetpool/documents/140616053710_WintersSearchWarrant.pdf

The Indictment - http://archive.wtsp.com/assetpool/documents/140616053357_WintersIndictment.pdf

The charge is for possessing a firearm which was not registered to him. Guess they are saying its a class III firearm that he had.


25 posted on 06/17/2014 4:40:05 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

The Federal agents could have asked him to make the bore .51 inch for them.


26 posted on 06/17/2014 4:40:26 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: driftdiver

Must be for pistol cartridges then. I don’t know. There are rifle cartridges with bigger than 0.5”

My Fathers Day goodies were 4 bullet comparison posters for Handguns, Big Bores, Rifles and Military cartridges. 1:1 scale pictures of each type....neat. Looking for the poster sleeves now.


27 posted on 06/17/2014 4:40:34 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2001convSVT
99% of the time this kind of action is opportunity for real training for the Brown Shirts.
It's like local police spending hours getting all dressed up to go kill a dog
while searching for Grandma in the recliner.

This is clearly abuse and reeks of reasoning with lies to cover their arm-chair
military tactics.

Exactly what law has this man broken?

28 posted on 06/17/2014 4:41:10 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Gaffer

If you read through the search warrant he used straw buyers to purchase AR15s and made booby traps which consisted of a 12ga shell in a pipe.

I didn’t make it all the way through so there may be more.


29 posted on 06/17/2014 4:45:05 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

The interesting thing to me is the use of the word “attack” in the article.

Attack does not describe a legitimate law enforcement action. The article doesn’t claim that he was going to attack federal agents, it claims he voiced an intent to respond if attacked.

That should cause free people to demand explanations from the feds.


30 posted on 06/17/2014 4:46:43 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: MaxMax
You spelled it out why I am so skeptical about this. Too much Power in the hands of the Feds for so long has corrupted them.
31 posted on 06/17/2014 4:47:23 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: driftdiver
....a 12ga shell in a pipe

IOW, a homemade shotgun. Also, Straw purchasers....seems to me the illegal act is committed by the purchaser. There would have to be some other evidence of the intent and disposition beyond just the purchase.

32 posted on 06/17/2014 4:49:28 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: rarestia
Investigators said Winter's plan included killing government agents if he or any member of his group were attacked.

Seems a reasonable position to me.

33 posted on 06/17/2014 4:49:33 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: SampleMan
That should cause free people to demand explanations from the feds.

Well said and exactly one of the key parts to this that have clued me into this being a setup.

The guy might be guilty of stupidity, but I'm not seeing anything other than a bunch of ATF goons trying to jam up a prepper for being prepared.

34 posted on 06/17/2014 4:53:15 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia
Why do I doubt this?

There currently is no law enforcement presence in the area.

35 posted on 06/17/2014 5:00:12 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Mark17

There are a few who get in but they don’t last long and can’t move up unless they “play the game”. Their words, not mine


36 posted on 06/17/2014 5:00:35 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: rarestia

No suspicious white powder this time?


37 posted on 06/17/2014 5:02:37 AM PDT by lwd
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To: PAR35

Isn’t that the weirdest sentence you’ve ever seen? Why would that be publicized? They’ve said it on TV as well. Even my wife was left asking why that’s been made public.


38 posted on 06/17/2014 5:03:48 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

If this guy is as well prepared he has food, water, cash transportation and arms.

A bug out spot and a plan.

He is long gone or shots well be fired shortly.


39 posted on 06/17/2014 5:04:52 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: riverrunner
If this guy is as well prepared he has food, water, cash transportation and arms. A bug out spot and a plan. He is long gone or shots well be fired shortly.

Starting to look like his bug-out plan is working .

40 posted on 06/17/2014 5:16:13 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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