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The IRS Loses Lerner's Emails
Wall Streeit Journal ^ | Wall Street Journal Editorial Staff

Posted on 06/14/2014 8:44:50 AM PDT by tedw

The IRS—remember those jaunty folks?—announced Friday that it can't find two years of emails from Lois Lerner to the Departments of Justice or Treasury. And none to the White House or Democrats on Capitol Hill. An agency spokesman blames a computer crash.

Never underestimate government incompetence, but how convenient. The former IRS Director of Exempt Organizations was at the center of the IRS targeting of conservative groups and still won't testify before Congress. Now we'll never know whose orders she was following, or what directions she was giving. If the Reagan White House had ever offered up this excuse, John Dingell would have held the entire government in contempt.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; bs; fascism; fascist; gettherope; impeachnow; irs; irsgagte; lerner; loislerner
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To: tedw

TREY GOWDY BTTR GET BUSY!!!


81 posted on 06/14/2014 9:47:45 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: stanne

It just happened LAST NIGHT!! When were they supposed to report it?


82 posted on 06/14/2014 9:49:22 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: rwa265
...losing e-mails is absolutely inexcusable.

Inexcusable? Try impossible

83 posted on 06/14/2014 9:49:54 AM PDT by kabar
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To: tedw

Damn it. I lost the office pool. My bet was Bo was going to eat all the incriminating e-mails.

I figured they would then say “No comment on an ongoing digestion”.


84 posted on 06/14/2014 9:50:14 AM PDT by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: Signalman

Obama is Law-Less because Republican “leaders” are BALL-LESS!


85 posted on 06/14/2014 9:50:32 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Not only wait til Monday, or report it again on Monday, but come to the realization, after being done like this for 25 years of liberal admins since the Clintons introduced it, that this was found out on a Friday for a reason.


86 posted on 06/14/2014 9:51:36 AM PDT by stanne
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To: tedw

It’s possible this is a head fake, that they just finished erasing anything bad from the main servers, now they cooked this story up as an excuse as to why they hadn’t turned the emails over thus far, and run up the cost of the investigation looking for emails that have been permanently erased hoping to blame partisan witch-hunts in the end after there is no smoking gun.


87 posted on 06/14/2014 9:53:21 AM PDT by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: tedw

This is pure BS.
Will they be allowed to get away with this?


88 posted on 06/14/2014 9:54:59 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: TomGuy
Reminiscent of Hillary misplacing the Rose Billing Records for several years — that mysteriously appeared in a box on a dining table in the Residence.

Don't forget the "lost emails" during the Al (I had too much iced tea and had to go pee while they discussed illegal political contributions, besides there was no controlling legal authority) Gore campaign contribution investigation.

Mark

89 posted on 06/14/2014 9:55:34 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: stanne

Believe me it WILL be reported again and again in the WSJ!


90 posted on 06/14/2014 9:57:06 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Never underestimate government incompetence, but how convenient

Never underestimate government [DemonicRat IRS employee] incompetence CORRUPTION TREASON, but how convenient

Fixed it

91 posted on 06/14/2014 9:58:10 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Seaplaner

Veteran IT Professional Gives Six Reasons Why the IRS’ Claim That It ‘Lost’ Two Years of Lois Lerner’s Emails Is ‘Simply Not Feasible’
Jun. 13, 2014 10:46pm Jason Howerton

A veteran IT professional tells TheBlaze that the IRS’ claim that the agency lost two years’ worth of former IRS official Lois Lerner’s emails is “simply not feasible.”

On Friday, members of Congress revealed that the IRS would not be able to hand over Lerner’s emails to and from other IRS employees from January 2009 to April 2011, possibly due to a “glitch” or “crash.” Lawmakers were seeking the emails as part of their investigation into the IRS targeting scandal.

Norman Cillo, an Army veteran who worked in intelligence and a former program manager at Microsoft, argued it is very difficult to lose emails for good and laid out six reasons why he believes Congress is “being lied to” about the Lerner emails:

1. I believe the government uses Microsoft Exchange for their email servers. They have built-in exchange mail database redundancy. So, unless they did not follow Microsofts recommendations they are telling a falsehood. You can see by the diagram below that if you have three servers in a DAG you have three copies of the database.
Credit: Norman Cillo

Credit: Norman Cillo

2. Every IT organization that I know of has hotswappable disk drives. Every server built since 2000 has them. Meaning that if a single disk goes bad it’s easy to replace.

3. ALL Servers use some form of RAID technology. The only way that data can be totally lost (Meaning difficult to bring back) is if more than a single disk goes before the first bad disk is replaced. In the diagram below you can see that its possible to lose a single disk and still keep the data.
Credit: Norman Cillo

Credit: Norman Cillo

4. If the server crashed (Hardware failure other than disks), then the disks that contain the DATA for the Exchange database is still available because the server hardware and disks are exchangeable. Meaning that if I have another server with the same hardware in it, I can put the disks in and everything should boot right up.

5. All email servers in a professional organization use TAPE backup. Meaning if all the above fails, you can restore the server using the TAPE backups.

6. If they are talking about her local PC, then it’s a simple matter of going to the servers which have the email and getting them from the servers. If the servers have removed the data you can still get them by using the backups of the servers to recover the emails.

However, Cillo, who has been working in IT for roughly 16 years and is currently a consultant for a tech company, said it’s possible the IRS is telling the truth if the federal agency is “totally mismanaged and has the worst IT department ever.”

Other than that, it’s just not “feasible,” he told TheBlaze. “If the IRS’ email server is in such a state that they only have one copy of data and the server crashes and it’s gone, I’ve never heard of such a thing.”

“I don’t know of any email administrator that doesn’t have at least three ways of getting that mail back,” he added. “It’s either on the disks or it’s on a TAPE backup someplace or in an archive server. There are at least three ways the government can get those emails.”


92 posted on 06/14/2014 9:58:39 AM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: OregonRancher

Or as Aldo Raine said in Inglourious Basterds, “We got a word in English for that kind of odd...it’s called, ‘Suspicious.’”


93 posted on 06/14/2014 9:59:43 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: thesharkboy

Great point!


94 posted on 06/14/2014 10:02:31 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: tedw

Pure corruption.


95 posted on 06/14/2014 10:04:29 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Ann Archy
It just happened LAST NIGHT!! When were they supposed to report it?

It was reported yesterday, on a Friday, as is most "bad news" by the Barky regime. By reporting it on Friday, they know that most people will not be aware of it, since by Monday, it will be "old news."

Mark

96 posted on 06/14/2014 10:06:34 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: stanne

I agree. They should put up another editorial on Monday to underscore the gravity of what’s going on, and address the administration’s likely reason for revealing the news on a Friday.


97 posted on 06/14/2014 10:12:13 AM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: Junior_G
They should put up another editorial on Monday to underscore the gravity of what’s going on, and address the administration’s likely reason for revealing the news on a Friday.

You think the WSJ cares one whit about whether the TEA Party is harrassed into oblivion?

The WSJ only cares about what is good for multinational corporations. They are about as patriotic as the NYT or the WP.

Just like the GOPe, all they care about is the power that money can buy.

Tea Party people by and large don't have any money to throw at these politicians. The middle class has no disposable income because they are taxed to pay for corporate welfare and welfare for Democrat voters.

This story is going nowhere.

98 posted on 06/14/2014 10:20:11 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: JimRed

Let’s see the records of the crash, the work orders for repairs and interview those who submitted the orders.


Probably lost those, too.


99 posted on 06/14/2014 10:23:50 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: tedw

Nixon’s secretary only lost something like 18 key minutes of a tape, and all hell broke loose. This is TWO YEARS of emails whose existence was denied and hidden for over a year while Lerner and the IRS gave the Congress the run around. Now they get a very specific subpoena, and say, on a Friday afternoon no less, “Oops, we lost them.”


100 posted on 06/14/2014 10:27:08 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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