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1 posted on 06/13/2014 4:01:04 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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We will soon name things like they do in China: People’s Park #10. Shanghai Railroad Station #2. So on...


31 posted on 06/13/2014 4:28:38 PM PDT by GingisK
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Someday the name America is going to be changed.


32 posted on 06/13/2014 4:30:23 PM PDT by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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Wow, we have a Kir Carson Pass here in California. Maybe we can get it re-named for Martin Luther King. Then no one will be able to use it because it will become a Black Ghetto. Or better still, name it after one of the Indian Casino Managers.


34 posted on 06/13/2014 4:39:25 PM PDT by vette6387
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Red Willow?

Doesn’t that mean burnished skeeknee people’s?


40 posted on 06/13/2014 4:56:14 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Taos isen’t really taos, the entire town is overrun by Rich and famous liberals from both the east and west coast. Causing enormous economic and taxation problems for the original locals.

These outsiders who have flooded the Taos new mexico area often say they came because “the mountain” called them or whatever thinking their somehow mystically there. Its a bunch of crock, and you find the same thing in Santa Fe also in northern New Mexico.


41 posted on 06/13/2014 4:56:52 PM PDT by Monorprise
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What the grievance mongers don't want to admit is that Kit Carson, as the agent for Bosque Redondo, fought tirelessly to keep them clothed and fed.

He paid his own way to Washington and made their case to the President and Congress. He canvassed the ranchers in New Mexico and got live cattle donated to the reservation.

Once he had helped defeat them, Kit Carson busted his butt for the Indians' welfare...and this is the thanks he gets from them???

A travesty of history!

42 posted on 06/13/2014 4:59:18 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parade.)
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The ignorance is astounding.

To start with, Kit Carson knew more about the Navajo than they did. With a unit of irregulars, facing a much larger assembly of Navajo warriors, he invented a new military tactic on the fly, and was able to escape with minimal loss.

At the time, the Navajo could field an army, with few disadvantages facing the US army, mostly because they lacked artillery and railroad transport. Horses were much like main battle tanks in that era, and the Navajo had a lot of very good horses.

So Kit Carson, ordered to control the Navajo, reached a very important conclusion: He had one real choice: kill every Navajo horse, or kill every adult male Navajo.

He chose their horses.

In this way, Carson saved thousands of Navajo lives.

Because had they kept their warlike ways, all too soon they would be in combat, not against irregulars, but against the very experienced Union Army, fresh from the Civil War, and lead by General Philip Sheridan.

General Sheridan had rather brutally whipped several major Indian tribes, and had his army fought the Navajo, there would be a heck of a lot of dead Navajo. Even the French army in Mexico, when their forward observers saw Sheridan’s army assemble near the border, suddenly decided that France was a far nicer place to be, so went home. Leaving skid marks.

So Carson was in fact the best thing that ever happened to the Navajo.


46 posted on 06/13/2014 5:09:14 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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Well, they can just eat their poor little pea-pickin’ hearts out over it. Ft. Carson, CO is here to stay.


48 posted on 06/13/2014 5:22:21 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU..)
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The Taos Town Council passed a resolution Tuesday to rename the downtown park Red Willow

I approve of this


56 posted on 06/13/2014 5:50:58 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Wikipedia is wrong. wjho knew?)
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Someone please send a war party to Taos NM to disinter old Kit and take his remains back to Nevada where he belongs.

Burn down Taos city hall on the way out.

Thank you.


57 posted on 06/13/2014 5:55:54 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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***on what’s called the “Long Walk.”***

A sort stroll compared to the Cherokee “Trail of Tears”.

By the way, TAOS was not Navajo country. The Indians of TAOS suffered many raids from the Navajos far to the west who often made raids on TAOS.


58 posted on 06/13/2014 5:57:25 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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***said one American Indian activist felt uncomfortable in the park,***

Maybe he is uncomfortable because the ghost of Governor BENT is roaming looking for the descendents of those who killed and scalped him.


60 posted on 06/13/2014 6:02:08 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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Council member Fritz Hahn

http://www.taosnews.com/article_f3a88ff6-99bd-11e3-a14e-0019bb2963f4.html

Another community organizer


61 posted on 06/13/2014 6:15:58 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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What “wreckage of the past”. We conquered the Indians. That has been done all over the world — including by one Indian tribe to another. There is no such thing as a “Native American”. NO human is native to this continent. Stop putting them on a pedestal. Yes, Andrew Jackson and others were brutal. But so were Indians with each other.


62 posted on 06/13/2014 6:24:10 PM PDT by montag813
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Taos is a leftist enclave. I’m surprised they took this long.


63 posted on 06/13/2014 6:34:02 PM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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“Council member Fritz Hahn said one American Indian activist felt uncomfortable in the park”.....

SO STAY THE HELL OUT OF THE PARK THEN..


65 posted on 06/13/2014 7:09:07 PM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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Council member Fritz Hahn said one American Indian activist felt uncomfortable in the park

How hypocritical and so politically in-correct
on the part of the certified "community organizer"

I'm sure he meant "Native-American"


68 posted on 06/14/2014 9:03:58 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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New wrinkle.

No one asked the Taos Pueblo Leadership.

Mayor apologizes to Pueblo for ‘very fast’ decision on Kit Carson Park


70 posted on 06/26/2014 8:33:17 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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72 posted on 06/27/2014 12:12:18 PM PDT by CedarDave
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Fine name it after Chief Manuelito, a Navajo warrior.

It's not going to change history. I imagine the next move will be to ask the feds to rename the Kit Carson National Forest.

74 posted on 06/27/2014 12:25:43 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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