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Another Wall Street liberal trying to make an invalid case....

1 posted on 06/11/2014 10:46:34 AM PDT by illiac
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Sounds like the phony argument we here in Texas all the time. A state income tax would allow property tax rates to be lowered.


62 posted on 06/11/2014 11:22:06 AM PDT by KMG365
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A laughable case.


66 posted on 06/11/2014 11:23:04 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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We should have stopped mass immigration decades ago, JFK wanted it to destroy us as a nation.


68 posted on 06/11/2014 11:24:37 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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Thought this was zot bait at first glance...


71 posted on 06/11/2014 11:25:03 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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They're trying to make the case to the new wave of constituional conservatives. Mainstream America is being destoyed by the invasion, and still all that the Wall Street - Banker - Chamber of Commerce class cares about is cheap labor.

It's disgusting that people who got elected as constituional conservatives STILL listen to these treaonous diatribes.

74 posted on 06/11/2014 11:26:49 AM PDT by grania
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O.M.G. The stupid...

Illegals burden the taxpayer via the emergency room and the schoolroom.

Illegals force down wages for all by working under the table for less.

Illegals bring diseases from nations with lower public health standards, causing increased healthcare costs to all.

Illegals who commit crimes are harder to track, arrest, or prosecute because the are unregistered, causing increased costs to law enforcement.

The net economic value of productive, educated illegals in comparison to the economic drain by low-contributing illegals is impossible calculate because most illegals are unregistered and unstudied.


76 posted on 06/11/2014 11:27:28 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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Some immigrants are productive and make us richer, but others need to be subsidized in a less than break even capacity. Wall Street should know all about being subsidized. Oh, and don’t look now, but the illegals coming over here now are not the hard working immigrants that came to help granddad get the cotton in. They are more likely to need housing assistance, education for their children, subsidized healthcare, food stamps, and then they are more likely to commit crimes, and spend time in our prisons. They will steal IDs, cars; rape our children; drive drunk with no insurance; break into our homes, and drive up unemployment. But Wall Street will be happy.

Bus a thousand illegals a day to Wall Street and the neighborhoods where liberal bankers and traders live. They would change their corrupt minds.


79 posted on 06/11/2014 11:30:02 AM PDT by pallis
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The logic, Allow migrant workers in to support the non-working Americans.


80 posted on 06/11/2014 11:30:09 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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We do favor immigration.

We favor legal immigration under our own terms.


82 posted on 06/11/2014 11:36:30 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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Nauseating bigotry and hatred of Americans.

If “immigrunts” from Mexico are so productive and helpful to an economy, then why is Mexico a desperate, poverty stricken country?

If the answer is “that’s the way their society is”, then when they are able to vote to control our country, won’t it end up looking just like theirs?


83 posted on 06/11/2014 11:39:00 AM PDT by Regulator (Tea Party: Born Again Republicans)
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RE:”Immigrants increase gross domestic product growth. Immigration expands the American workforce and encourages more business startups. In 2013 the labor-force participation of foreign-born workers was higher than native-born workers (66.4% vs. 62.7%). Their unemployment rate was lower (6.9%, compared with 7.5% for native-born Americans). If people want to come and work, that adds to our economy.”

Saying that immigrants want a job more than US born Americans do.

84 posted on 06/11/2014 11:40:36 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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It’s basically a bait and switch.

They show you hundreds of bright clean PHDs but they deliver million of campesinos.


85 posted on 06/11/2014 11:48:13 AM PDT by DManA
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Gee, I didn’t realize that we already had legal immigration available to the most innovative and productive individuals of the world. We should create some kind of legal immigration policy or something....

Our current system is only “broken” because the ruling class is not actually enforcing the current system.


86 posted on 06/11/2014 11:49:39 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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I support Ted Cruz’ immigration reform 110%!


91 posted on 06/11/2014 11:56:29 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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Great. There's 93 million Americans out of the work force, and what "we" need is foreign workers.

Like Tonto said in the old joke: "What you men 'we', Kemosabi?"

93 posted on 06/11/2014 12:07:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (My kin are given to such phrases as, 'Let's face it.' - Flannery O'Connor)
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...sensible immigration reform with border controls...

I believe the whole debate is over the import of the word "sensible". Some folks fancy that permitting many (if not all) people currently in the U.S. illegally not only to have their presence regularized in some way, but essentially handed Green Cards after a little bureaucratic hassle and put on their way to becoming citizens, is sensible. Others think that tougher enforcement of existing immigration law, including quick deportation of anyone in the U.S. illegally is sensible.

I suspect what is really sensible is somewhere in between. (Personally I like "Red Card" proposals -- a way of granting permanent legal status to remain in the U.S. to some non-citizens that does not put them on a track to citizenship. We can quibble over who should be entitled to such status, but it blunts all the left's humanitarian arguments and would be a way of stopping chain-immigration through family reunion resulting in lots of new 'Rat voters.)

94 posted on 06/11/2014 12:08:22 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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This is exactly the argument a chamber of commerce friend laid on me a few months ago. He’d just retired as CFO of a major American construction company, and he’d been CEO of several large produce and food industry corporations.

His basic argument was that immediate deportation would crash the American economy because the immigrants were ensconced in every work-intensive industry.

His second argument was that immigrants were extremely hard workers away from air conditioning, something he said is not true of Americans anymore.

His 3rd argument was that immigrants disproportionately start up businesses...restaurants, repair shops, etc.

The response of mine that really made him pause was: are all these things not true of LEGAL immigrants as well; why should an illegal steal the place in line of a legal?

He accepted that.


97 posted on 06/11/2014 12:17:22 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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look calling what we have now immigration is like calling Sept 1 39 Germany in to Poland, immigration
99 posted on 06/11/2014 12:22:16 PM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more.)
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"But the Tea Party should favor sensible immigration reform with border controls" Diana Furchtgott-Roth

Completely and totally ignorant of the fact that laws addressing the above are already in place and are being ignored and compromised!!!

What makes Diana Furchtgott-Roth think that new laws will not also be ignored and compromised?

8:}

100 posted on 06/11/2014 12:24:24 PM PDT by AwesomePossum
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(Yes, I am yelling)

ENFORCE EXISTING LAWS, DAMMIT! YOU WASHINGTON PUKES HAVE PI**ED DOWN OUR LEGS AND SWORN IT’S RAINING FOR SO LONG, AND NOW YOU WANT TO TELL US HOW YOUR SOLUTION IS THE ONLY ONE?!?

/rant


103 posted on 06/11/2014 12:39:49 PM PDT by MortMan ("Homeland" may be a documentary.)
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