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They are grabbing kids off the streets in Lvov and the west, giving them a partial uniform and a gun, and sending them East. No training at all.

The problems in the Ukrainian Army are becoming glaring, especially with well over 100+ surrenders alone in the last three days. This is why they are depending more and more on Aviation to solve the problem.

This article just touches at the problems:
http://sovietoutpost.revdisk.org/?p=127


61 posted on 06/03/2014 3:44:46 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
I believe the ‘Kiev Government’ wants Russia to get miffed enough to put it's army fully into Ukraine to force the US to act militarily because they cannot retain or maintain their own military even with the help of tanks etc...they simply do not have the strategic planners to do that for them...or themselves sufficient to cover the area...and
Remember early on the military commander said in the only about 20% of their men were combat ready.

I think these kids and parents/families are unwilling to fight the East because they've figured out it's really ‘for the Oligarchs’ who got them in the place they're in in the first place....Why would they die for them?

I did read a few articles about how Keiv Gov. is failing the military badly and how so many are deserting...even some of the parents have come after them....

I agree they're resorting to air strikes because they cannot achieve “an army” any longer......so who is leading these air strikes? I believe the US is because without the East the only thing Ukraine has to offer is their farmland...and the EU already signed that away.

When this is over Ukraine people will have signed away any hope for a future any time soon....did you see the lists of cuts...and also raise in costs these people are going to have to pay under the austerity.....50% hikes in many areas and overhaul of their services...even elimination of...as well as subsidies.

66 posted on 06/03/2014 4:42:37 AM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf
Updates Ukraine: - Yatzenyuk tells EU to block South Stream pipeline, needs 'transit money' from gas desperately. - Parents in W Ukraine protested their drafted sons being sent to fight Poroshenko's war...Got beaten up by nationalists/rightsecctor for resisting....police stepped in and broke it up...One woman with a head injury was taken to the intensive care unit, a few go to the hospital with multiple fractures and bruises


68 posted on 06/03/2014 5:10:32 AM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf
Ukraine" 3rd Battalion of 51st Brigade mutinied this week, refused to be sent to kill their own people in East


97 posted on 06/03/2014 11:49:46 AM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf
A new volunteer gets his medical to join the Ukraine National Guard/RightSector Troops


105 posted on 06/03/2014 12:41:52 PM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf; McGruff; metmom
Today....June 3. 2013....Ukraines Pres. Porsh...Kerry...Obama and other political heads enjoying a toast with Obama and others at dinner in Poland....note even a catholic priest is there ...What hypocrites!..the toast was for "Freedom and Solidarity?"


110 posted on 06/03/2014 1:34:06 PM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf

Google Hangout: “The Battle for Truth”

Atlantic Council....Wednesday, June 4, at 11 a.m. for an online only discussion with Viktoria Siumar, ‘Ukrainian National Security Council deputy’, on how her government is overcoming the Russian disinformation machine.

This is where the “feel good” Council members go when they are upset and scared....I can’t imagine Victoria if Ukraines Gov. doing more than continue with the lies, however might be interesting to see what questions arise and watch her squirm...if any even dare to ask!

http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/events/webcasts/the-battle-for-truth


113 posted on 06/03/2014 3:17:49 PM PDT by caww
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