[Orangedog]

This has gone way past the point of anyone voting their way out of this. The best I’m hoping for is to hunker down out of arms reach of the lumpen when the EBT cards quit working and the social security checks stop going out.

[Lazamataz]

I used to fear the looming breakup of the United States, because then the Constitution and Bill of Rights would then be rendered meaningless.

I no longer have that fear. The Constitution and Bill of Rights are almost rendered meaningless already.