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UKIP vote in European elections no flash in pan according to new poll
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 10:00PM BST 30 May 2014 | James Kirkup

Posted on 05/31/2014 9:42:50 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The vast majority of the four million people who voted for the UK Independence Party in the European elections will make the same choice at the general election, a new poll predicts today.

The poll by ComRes suggests that 86 percent of people who voted for Nigel Farage’s party will do so again next year.

More than 4.3  million people voted for UKIP in the European elections, giving the party its first national victory. The Conservatives came third, suggesting many of their previous supporters had defected to UKIP. Several Cabinet ministers have publicly said that many UKIP voters are merely “lending” their votes to UKIP this year and will return to the Tory fold ahead of the general election; but the poll, conducted in the days after the European election, casts doubt on those predictions.

The survey found that 37 percent of UKIP voters said that they were “certain” to support the party at the general election. Another 49 percent said that they were “likely” to do so, while 14 percent said that they would probably back another party. …

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: davidcameron; europeanunion; eussr; generalelections; ukip; unitedkingdom

1 posted on 05/31/2014 9:42:51 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

i’ll have some of what they’re having. USIP sounds good to me.


2 posted on 05/31/2014 9:48:01 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: dadfly

USIP with a picture of a tea cup as the logo :p


3 posted on 05/31/2014 9:59:11 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Olog-hai

This is an important election. Shows there’s still some life left in the old island.


4 posted on 05/31/2014 10:00:27 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: 4rcane

“USIP with a picture of a tea cup as the logo :p”

Damn, that’s a good logo. Never thought of that before..


5 posted on 05/31/2014 10:22:58 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Olog-hai

My only objection to Farage is his banging on about the UK being a poodle of the USA - a most boring charge that seems always to spring to British lips whether from right or left. Britain chose to engage in various wars with the United States but continually needs to feel like a victim of its own decisions.


6 posted on 05/31/2014 11:07:13 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

At one time, the UKIP platform said that Israel had to have “proportional” responses to Islamic terrorism too.


7 posted on 05/31/2014 11:16:38 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Oh,the old proportional theory of war trick! So, UKIP has some anti-Semitic overtones? I’m surprised because Pam Geller is a huge supporter of them. She’s the anti-Islamist American who got banned from visiting the UK!

I’ve been looking at some You Tube videos of Farage. He’s very good on the internal troubles of Great Britain - and of course, I love his bashing of the EU.


8 posted on 05/31/2014 11:25:12 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein
This document is from four years ago, but what is said has some liberal overtones that have to do with weakening Israel.
Asia — Israel and Palestine

16.4 UKIP fully supports the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state and recognizes the despicable anti-Semitism in European history, culminating in the Holocaust. Israel is surrounded by hostile states committed to its destruction. The tiny state has been the frequent victim of rocket attacks and suicide bombings from terrorist groups, almost all deliberately targeting civilians. Israel has every right to respond with proportionate force to these attacks, and a UKIP government would do the same were Britain similarly threatened. UKIP rejects the notion that Israel should be punished through sanctions or cancellation of trade deals (such as the EU-Israel Association Agreement) for defending itself from attack.

16.5 UKIP urges Israel to adopt a lasting solution based on a political dialogue and not just military strength. Political problems require political solutions. As with any genuine friend, UKIP reserves the right to be critical of Israel. We urge the Israeli army (IDF) to be proportional in its operations.

UKIP is particularly concerned by the alleged use of white phosphorus on the battlefield by the IDF and by allegations of Gaza Strip blockades which hinders reconstruction. Allegations that the Israeli secret service, Mossad, stole the identities of British citizens to forge passports for a hit squad that carried out an assassination in Dubai is also deeply concerning. UKIP is an ally of Israel, as is Britain, and if the allegations are true, it would be a damaging abuse of our friendship that Israel chose to abuse the identities of nationals of a supportive country.

16.6 UKIP calls for an immediate halt to the building of new settlements considered illegal under international law.

16.7 UKIP wishes to see a peaceful and mutually amicable settlement reached between Israel and the Palestinians. It is not for us to set the terms for these talks, nor the boundaries for any peace deal. This is an issue the Israelis and Palestinians must work out between themselves. UKIP would offer assistance if invited to do so by either party, based on the experience of the Northern Ireland Peace Process.
I have no idea if the party has abandoned these positions. I can’t find this document on the UKIP website of today, but that does not mean they do not have it stashed away.
9 posted on 05/31/2014 11:46:13 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

They’ve got to do it, they’ve got to throw the bums out!

Britain has been brought to the brink of cultural ruin by both the Tories and Labor.

They need a complete housecleaning - time for a new broom.


10 posted on 06/01/2014 1:29:48 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Olog-hai

That was very nice of you to dig that out. I’m sure it’s still in their back pocket and just stashed away from the public eye.

I must say I am bewildered why so many still relatively small political parties have to have huge statements about the one democracy in the Middle East. In my opinion, Israel is none of UKIP’s business.


11 posted on 06/01/2014 3:25:24 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: 4rcane

As many here who relish in the idea that an inference to anything tea delights them, I stand that the message should not be a modern day symbol that the media and the ruling elites will and have made the subject to purposely obfuscate the message, but instead let them attempt to malign and diminish the founders. This is why I stand for the Gadsden Flag or any other one of its time.

Reset to 1791.


12 posted on 06/01/2014 4:17:15 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Olog-hai

Pity it isn’t the BNP getting these results. UKIP is NOT strong enough against the Islamic threat, and I believe even has Muslims in leadership positions.


13 posted on 06/01/2014 4:56:55 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Olog-hai
More than 4.3  million people voted for UKIP in the European elections, giving the party its first national victory.

Color me confused.

There are 63 million people living in Great Britain as of 2012. There are almost 50 million registered voters, and in the last big party election in 2010, almost 30 million voted.

So how can 4.3 million voters win anything there?.

14 posted on 06/01/2014 5:23:15 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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The Establishment (Whatever TF THAT is) wishes to defuse UKIP and in similar fashion in the US, the Tea Party.

They feel that UKIPers and Tea Partiers can be bought off with a bit of rhetoric and will back Mitch McConnell types in the "real" elections, and are not looking for genuine reform, but a few tweaks here and there .... especially in immigration, and will accept a "fix" to Obamacare, rather than repeal. Establishment types believe, Republicans (and Tories) will tire of "reform" and not wish to endanger pork and perks from which they think they benefit. Also, The Establishment will play the hell out of the Race Card, because they believe UKIPers and Tea Partiers will shy away from being called "racists."

Well, we'll see, won't we?

15 posted on 06/01/2014 6:06:59 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Vote for a gay African Marxist for POTUS? Sure. What could go wrong?)
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To: montag813
The BNP are openly anti-Israel.
16 posted on 06/01/2014 8:59:32 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: mazda77

I’m sure they will try to mock the tea cup logo, but its no more as funny than a donkey or an elephant logo. Updated version of the Gadsden Flag could also work


17 posted on 06/01/2014 9:37:39 AM PDT by 4rcane
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