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Conservatives Won't Win Elections by Refusing To Compromise
Townhall.com ^ | May 28, 2014 | Dr Ben Carson

Posted on 05/28/2014 6:28:32 PM PDT by Kaslin

More discussion on the topic of pragmatism and politics is critical. If conservatives decide to take their marbles and go home rather than fight to the bitter end because they feel their principles have been compromised, they will needlessly subject future generations to untold misery.

Voting for someone who agrees with you 90 percent of the time is far superior to voting for someone who disagrees with you 100 percent of the time. This is exactly what will happen if people refuse to exercise their civic duty and boycott elections because they feel betrayed. Personally, I am not supportive of abortion at all, but I can support people who feel differently if, in the gigantic scheme of things, they can help put an end to the murder of innocent babies. This is especially true of those who are personally inclined to save and protect life.

Perhaps an illustration is in order: Two armies are engaged in a war. Let's call the good army that is trying to defend an entire society the red army and the bad army that is trying to invade and pillage society the blue army. The blue army occupies a superior strategic position and is composed of slightly more troops, putting the red army at a distinct disadvantage. Some in the red army feel that they are right and, therefore, should simply march directly into battle with the blue army because right always wins.

Fortunately, some members of the red army are wise and have a better plan. They send a battalion of troops to the base of the mountain occupied by the blue army to distract them while the vast majority of red troops approach the mountain from the backside. They descend upon the blue army by surprise, completely vanquishing them and winning the war. The decoy red battalion may have sustained some casualties, but in the long run, the war was won, and the entire society was saved.

I hope this illustration is useful in helping some to understand that achieving a critical mass of conservatives and RINOs (Republicans in Name Only, as some call them) in office will ensure that we can get non-activist Supreme Court and federal judges in place who respect the U.S. Constitution. It is essential to achieve a critical mass of individuals in the U.S. House and Senate who can join with a president in upholding the Constitution. These representatives must believe in personal responsibility and creating a business-friendly environment, understand the balance between abundant fossil-fuel development and environmental safety, and yearn to elevate the government-dependent 47 percent rather than make them more dependent. They also must be totally pro-life and believe that the rule of law can undo a host of damaging regulations and restore the value system that made this nation great.

In the long run, with the help of God, we will be in a position to save millions of babies who otherwise would be slaughtered. With this kind of responsible empowerment, energizing a sluggish economy, bringing stability to a leaderless planet and facilitating innovation will not be that difficult. To sit helplessly by and pray for deliverance when the tools to achieve victory are in our hands is not useful. God helps those who help themselves.

Conservatives and those who share their values are the last bastion between freedom and tyranny. If the secular liberals, who are very clever, succeed in dividing us during the next two national elections, America as we know it will be gone. We can stop this, but we must work together. I disagree with those who think it is going to take decades to undo the damage that already has been done. Americans are exceptional and extremely resilient. We cannot allow ourselves to be defined by those who wish to fundamentally change our society.

I am convinced that Americans with common sense will soon regain power. It is essential that we not use the opportunity to exact revenge upon the liberals. Rather, we must govern by the Constitution in a way that is fair for all. It is not reasonable to have favorites and to enforce laws selectively. Most importantly, it is not the place of our government to rule the people; the government must always remember that it is in place to serve the people.

I believe that when people who were being manipulated by the secular liberals, including the media, have an opportunity to see how much better off they are when the proper relationship between the people and the government is restored, they will adopt a different attitude. This will empower them and the entire nation.

Now is the time to rise above partisan politics and recognize the incredible blessings God has bestowed upon our nation. It is time to elevate common sense, decency, honesty and compassion to their proper positions. Rather than simply repeating the words, we must actually achieve "one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2014midterms; abortion; compromise; pablum; politicalparty
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To: JRandomFreeper
Are you demanding that I vote for a pro-abortion, gun banning, socialized medicine liberal republican because he won the party nomination?

Great straw man.

Again.

You can beat him all day long can't you?

I do think Breitbart's assessment was right. He nailed it.

221 posted on 05/30/2014 5:42:49 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: JRandomFreeper
And I am NOT a republican. I am a conservative.

Likewise. Like Cruz, Palin, Breitbart, and so many other fine warriors, I don't want to misunderstand the true enemy and not engage them.

222 posted on 05/30/2014 5:45:33 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark
I am a conservative independent. You need my vote for your party to win.

I will not vote for a candidate that has socialist positions.

You will lose unless your drive your party conservative.

The republicans will get conservative or they will get destroyed. I don't care which.

Quit whining that I owe you my vote. I don't.

/johnny

223 posted on 05/30/2014 5:46:10 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
You're great at this straw man thing, saying untrue things, beating them up, and then beating them again.....I guess it must make you feel good about yourself........

If I had allowed the bamster and his minions to prevail and continue destroying this county, I'd need something to feel good about myself too.

224 posted on 05/30/2014 5:54:23 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark
To get my vote, a candidate must be pro-life, pro-second amendment, against socialized medicine, against amnesty, and against growing government.

That's all. It's that simple.

If your party produces candidates like that, I will vote for them.

It's that simple.

/johnny

225 posted on 05/30/2014 5:57:07 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Lakeshark
Lake, my response is redundant because J Random has already said what I'd say. HE IS CORRECT. The only dif is that I am yet registered as a Republican, but like him, I will ONLY vote for limited government conservatives who are pro life, pro gun, anti-government-run medicine, and who understand that government is the problem and nearly every ill in America today, from social decay to economic duress, would be greatly reduced with a reduction of government. I will vote FOR the politician who lets me vote FOR that stand, and I really don't give a particular damn what party that politician does or doesn't belong to.

Lakeshark, I've been voting your way for decades. I finally figured out what you have yet to perceive: IT'S THE WRONG STRATEGY. It is PROVEN to be the wrong strategy. Hellooooo????????

When are you going to wake up and smell the coffee?

226 posted on 05/30/2014 8:33:07 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Lakeshark; JRandomFreeper
Laguna Tiburon tells JuanRF (a lil' espanyole there): If I had allowed the bamster and his minions to prevail and continue destroying this county, I'd need something to feel good about myself too.

Lakeshark, if Romney had won, he would RIGHT NOW be using the Republican party and a Republican presidential administration to advance:
-- government-run health care with on-demand subsidized abortion
-- using government to punish adoption agencies, businesses, military agencies, schools, youth groups, and any other organization or individual who refused to play along with pretend marriages between homosexuals
-- using government to remove the right of Americans to keep and bear arms
-- using government to expand and enforce the "global warming save the planet" hoax-based power grab of food and energy production AND consumption in America
-- supporting raises in the minimum wage and thus providing MORE reason for illegal immigrants to come to the USA, whom he would support favoring with amnesty
-- appointing activist liberal judges to the Supreme Court

In order to "feel good about yourself" for having voted FOR such an amoral monster, would you be here accepting accountability for what you voted FOR? Would you be here saying, "No, now, all those things are just fine and I take responsibility for Republicans enacting the liberal agenda because that is what I voted for."

Not hardly. You would be here whining, "Don't blame me, I didn't vote for that, I voted against Obama."

The dif between "conservatives" like you and conservatives like JRandom and me, is that we KNOW and UNDERSTAND that we are accountable for what we voted for. You labor under the fantasy that there is such a thing as voting "against."

227 posted on 05/30/2014 8:53:09 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Lakeshark; JRandomFreeper; All
Case in point as to what Romney voters voted FOR, as opposed to "against."
228 posted on 05/30/2014 11:37:08 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: GeronL
What happens is that good candidates get stomped on and then those that hate us demand our vote, my answer is no.

Common answer here - one that Dr. Carson alluded to and the results are also what he alluded to - the insanity of a second Obama term and the real possibility, that despite the scandals and obvious unsuitability, Hillary probably has a good chance to follow Obama.

229 posted on 05/31/2014 2:39:31 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: JRandomFreeper
There's a big difference between a less-than-perfect candidate, and a pro-abortion, gun grabbing, socialized medicine, big government liberal. And that's what the GOP wants me to vote for. Are you saying that I should vote for a pro-abortion gun grabber just because he won the republican nomination?

Obama, Hillary, Harry, Nancy and the crew thank you for your service.

Too bad you can't delineate a person who separates his opinion from what the government ought to do about it. When I hear words like, "While legal for a State to do it, it would be unconstitutional for it to be done at a Federal level", or, "I feel this way, but it's not for the government to decide, it's for the organization to decide", and then contrast it with a drug-addict/narcissist/commie/adolescent who thinks his every whim is suitabl;e for enforcement on the People, and who doesn't just have opinions, but is willing to put the full force of government behind those opinions, I wonder at those who think it's fine to discard the former for the latter and keep up the false meme that we wouldn't be any better off if we had ousted Obama - and they call the Left mentally deficient...

230 posted on 05/31/2014 2:45:34 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Finny
Johnny one notes strawmen: Priceless. And he'll beat them forever, and make himself feel good. Lord knows, he doesn't have much, so let him continue the beatings........Breitbart was right on this one, not you.........

I'm sorry, if you're a patriot of any kind, you don't allow the most hateful, most destructive, most anti-American, pro-death, pro-gun grabbing, pro Marxist, stealing cheating administration ever to stay in power and continue to destroy what you claim to love. That you guys think that's cool is overwhelmingly moronic, just as stupid as the GOPE.

That you don't understand the difference between full throated Marxist evil and a RINO squish doesn't say much about your candle power. Keep telling us how Hubert Humphrey and Fidel (or Mao or Stalin) are the same, but pardon we while I go throw up.

Like Breitbart said, everything this administration does has YOUR approval now: everything, the destruction of our country's military, the hateful ascendance of everything they stand for, the clear intent to steal your guns, the clear intent to make you pay for their abortion society, the clear intent to set up death panels, the clear intent to set up psych wards for conservatives, the consolidating of the power of the state and the bureaucracy to destroy everything you claim to love.

And you're proud of it......just disgusting.

231 posted on 05/31/2014 4:38:41 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: trebb
So you are saying I should have voted for the pro-abortion, gun banning, socialized medicine liberal, just because he was the republican candidate.

And Romney came out yesterday to push the GOP to pass amnesty. Amnesty that will give the country over to the likes of Obama, Hillary, Harry, and Nancy in perpetuity.

But keep attacking conservatives and running liberal candidates. You can see how well it's worked so far....

/johny

232 posted on 05/31/2014 4:41:44 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Lakeshark
There are a growing number of conservatives that just won't vote for your liberal candidates. The only way to win their vote is to run conservative candidates.

And for good reason.

Romney came out yesterday to push the GOP to pass amnesty.

Amnesty will mean the left wins forever in many places.

/johnny

233 posted on 05/31/2014 4:46:47 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I heartily agree that amnesty is a horrendous idea, one that would be the last nail in the coffin of the USA.

It's what we have now, plus a lawless chief executive that not only just sort of agrees with it to go along, but one that actively is pushing it into law with his lawless regime. It's what the totalitarian left wants, and what they're going to get, thanks to you.

You're the one that left this totalitarian in office, the one who worked to keep him in office, you're the one with blood on your hands, not me.

Just keep repeating your stupid mantras, beating your strawmen (your liberal candidates).....I know the left just loves your kind, you should be proud of your moronic idiocy, and (obviously) you are........

234 posted on 06/02/2014 4:50:40 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark
Is abortion a republican party platform plank now? Is gun control? Is socialized medicine?

Because your candidate didn't even match the republican party platform.

No, it's your fault, for allowing your party to nominate candidates that don't even give lip service to the platform. You will run another liberal, and Hillary will win 8 years, and you'll whine about conservatives that won't vote for a pro-abortion anti-gun candidate.

You are going to lose, regardless of your namecalling and attacks on the voters you need.

/johnny

235 posted on 06/02/2014 5:13:21 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Nice dodge, nice ongoing strawmen (You will run another liberal). Go ahead, find one post where I wanted a liberal for the nominee, just one. Now you're Johnny liar besides Johnny blood on his hands one note. You are really a dimmer bulb than I even thought.

Congrats on the five Taliban commanders being released. Congrats on the insane rules of engagement for our troops, and the ones who have lost their lives as a result, you left them there under the command of an insane Marxist monster. Congrats. Yes, you have blood on your hands.

Congrats on the bamster's ongoing forcibly taxing ALL US citizens for his abortion mills. Congrats on the ongoing corruption that will never end. Congrats on the foreign policy implosion, the destruction of a once proud military, the ascendance of the lavender mafia, the imploding economy, the unemployment, the lack of a pipeline, the high energy costs, good grief, I could go on and on and on.

Yes, you have blood on your hands.

And btw, YOU started the name calling, and obviously there is nothing that can be said that would make your active campaigning for the bamster a reasonable choice. Not ONE sane conservative did that, NOT ONE.

But Johnny's proud of it....

Pardon me while I go barf.

236 posted on 06/02/2014 3:57:29 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark
I still won't vote for a pro-abortion, anti-gun, socialized medicine, pro-amnesty candidate. And I'll encourage everyone I can to not vote for them, too.

Have a great day.

/johnny

237 posted on 06/02/2014 3:59:17 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Enjoy your dreams, they're all you've got.

Congrats on giving us the bamster, congrats for having blood on your hands, Breitbart pegged you perfectly. You're absolutely responsible for everything he does, and it's flat out horrendous just like most of us (other than Johnny dim bulb)knew.

Do you work for the bamster on purpose, or is that just your dim bulbed nature?

238 posted on 06/02/2014 4:03:42 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark
I helped get rid of Dewhurst, a liberal republican that blocked conservative legislation. I'll keep pecking away.

I must be pretty powerful if I'm absolutely responsible for everything Obama does.

I look forward to the destruction of the liberal wing of the republican party.

/johnny

239 posted on 06/02/2014 4:09:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’m getting older. I refuse to compromise with LIBs/DIMs/RINOs. F’em all. I’ll go out telling them to kiss my a**. Look where compromise has brought us. Freedom is dieing.


240 posted on 06/02/2014 4:19:47 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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