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73-year-old Seeks 'Stand Your Ground' Protection
AP Via Yahoo ^ | May 28, 2015 | Scott Sonner

Posted on 05/28/2014 3:47:17 PM PDT by lbryce

A 73-year-old man has been charged with murder in a recent shooting that killed a man and wounded a woman who had done meth and entered his vacant duplex without permission in suburban Reno.

The defendant, Wayne Burgarello, acknowledged the Feb. 13 shooting at a property he owns in Sparks but says he was acting in self-defense under Nevada's "stand your ground" law, according to court records.

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FTA:Burgarello entered the residence with a high-powered revolver and a semi-automatic handgun, according to police reports. He told police he identified himself as the owner and warned, "This is private property and nobody better be in here."

Wilson said as Burgarello approached, Devine started to get up from the floor and said they were just sleeping. That's when the shooting began, she told police.

Some might argue that the "stand your ground" rule might not apply here and that the guy went a bit too far.

If he saw the two sleeping on the floor, and in such a situation wasn't in any danger had other options in which to deal with finding two people who were sleeping and had entered his home illegally.

1 posted on 05/28/2014 3:47:17 PM PDT by lbryce
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Well, waking them up was certainly not unduly aggressive. If he woke them up and they were threatening to him, then he might have been justified, depending on the particulars of the law. If he just woke them up and started blasting away, then he should be culpable, but I doubt he did that.

Besides, what were the “other alternatives”? If he called the cops, they probably would have shot him and his dog, and either shot the couple or entered them in contention for couple of the year.


2 posted on 05/28/2014 3:54:25 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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A vacant rental unit, two illegal inhabitants not threatening the owner, one killed and one injured by the shooting of the owner without any reported evidence of threat to the shooter............

If I'm on the jury and you can't prove to me that the squatters were a threat to the shooter, then I'm voting guilty..........

3 posted on 05/28/2014 3:55:44 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I would have to agree.


4 posted on 05/28/2014 4:04:35 PM PDT by lbryce (Barack Obama:Misbegotten Bastard OffSpring of Satan and Medusa.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

If I’m on the jury the burden of proof would be that they were NOT a threat with the underlying assumption being that individuals who are squatting are automatically stealing from the property owner.


5 posted on 05/28/2014 4:08:48 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Hot Tabasco

The fact that they were meth heads tells me everything I need to know about threats. People on that drug are clinically insane and psychotic, not rational people.


6 posted on 05/28/2014 4:09:16 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: lbryce

Shudda called in the BLM.


7 posted on 05/28/2014 4:09:37 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: CorporateStepsister

I agree with you.

Meth heads are totally insane, psychotic, and can turn physically hyper-aggressive for any reason.

This is a 73-year old.

Not guilty.


8 posted on 05/28/2014 4:14:29 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: Hot Tabasco

Not I; meth addicts are irrational at best, very dangerous at worst. This guy did the community a favor.


9 posted on 05/28/2014 4:17:24 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: ForYourChildren

Thanks.

If those two had woken up while he was calling the police, he might have been murdered.

As for his age, I think prison would be pointless at this juncture. He is old and most elderly people can’t defend themselves as well as the young (a revelation to a lot of liberals).

As for mental health, druggies often have an underlying cause.


10 posted on 05/28/2014 4:23:46 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: taxcontrol
individuals who are squatting are automatically stealing from the property owner.

Squatting, stealing or threatening great bodily harm are all different.........

You can squat if you want, but that doesn't give me the right to kill you

You can steal if you want, which certainly wasn't the case here............

Or you can threaten my life which would then allow me some protection under the law to kill you........

None of the above other than the squatting has been alleged................

Castle Doctrine won't even be accepted as an argument unless this guy can prove that the squatters were going to either kill him or do great bodily harm.........

If I were the remaining wounded squatter, I certainly wouldn't want YOU as my defense attorney...........

11 posted on 05/28/2014 4:32:41 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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In Texas if you feel yourself or your possessions are being threatened you can use deadly force. If I walk into my home and strangers are inside, I’m probably going to feel like, at the very least, my possessions are being threatened. I don’t see my home as being any different from my rental property.

Plus, I sure wouldn’t put much stock in the meth head’s testimony.


12 posted on 05/28/2014 4:44:25 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: lbryce
HAH !! Beat You ALL !!

Well, I shot a man in Reno........just to watch him die....

13 posted on 05/28/2014 4:54:45 PM PDT by onona (IÂ’ve pretty much given up on sanity returning.)
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His mistake was leaving a witness to the shooting alive.


14 posted on 05/28/2014 4:56:24 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war,and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: taxcontrol
The burden (by the state) should be that they were NOT a threat anyway......the old man is innocent until proven guilty.

High on meth, and trespassing.......it'd be damn difficult to convince me beyond reasonable doubt. All the old man would have to do is say, "I claim Stand Your Ground, and anything beyond that, I plead the 5th."

Short of audio/video to the contrary or hard evidence he shot them while they were asleep, he'd have my "Not Guilty."

15 posted on 05/28/2014 5:00:58 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (Why are cops ROE more lenient against us, here in the US, than U.S. military's ROE's in a war zone?)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Without some concrete physical evidence proving the owner a liar I would be inclined to believe that the squatters cuased him to fear for his person. I would also find that fear reasonable unless the squatters were fleeing in the opposite direction, which by the survivors account they were not. Given only the facts presented in the article (two druggie squatters are roused and make furtive movements towards the property owner) I would not convict.


16 posted on 05/28/2014 5:03:58 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: VerySadAmerican
If I walk into my home and strangers are inside, I’m probably going to feel like, at the very least, my possessions are being threatened. I don’t see my home as being any different from my rental property.

I understand what you are saying......but there's a big difference between the house you live in which you certainly have the right to protect against invasion and a barn, or shed or rental property which is not inhabited by anyone.

If the guy can prove that his life was in danger and required his killing of one and wounding of the other, then good for him.........

17 posted on 05/28/2014 5:05:48 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: Hot Tabasco
If they hadn't broken into somebody else's property, it's much more likely they would be alive. No sympathy.

If I was a 73 year old, I would not take any chances of one of them suddenly pulling a gun and shooting me before I had a chance to react. My viewpoint would be that they were illegal intruders, and my expectation is that my life would be at risk from them.

18 posted on 05/28/2014 5:08:24 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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roused and make furtive movements towards the property owner) I would not convict.

If "furtive" movements justify a homicide and another wounded in your mind, then who am I to argue.......

19 posted on 05/28/2014 5:29:56 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: PapaBear3625
I would not take any chances of one of them suddenly pulling a gun and shooting me before I had a chance to react.

Then you'd better lawyer-up bro.........

20 posted on 05/28/2014 5:32:38 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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