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Supreme Court rules in favor of police officers who fired to end high-speed car chase
WashingtonTimes ^ | 05/27/2014 | Kelly Riddell

Posted on 05/27/2014 9:31:07 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

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To: Zhang Fei

I don’t know if he was wearing a seat belt. But he didn’t make the decision to run because of some stupid traffic tickets and the family didn’t think the cops should have chased him the way they did, causing the accident. It was sad, he was a good kid.


81 posted on 05/27/2014 11:12:08 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Enterprise

That wasn’t the case though, and maybe you shouldn’t watch so many movies.


82 posted on 05/27/2014 11:14:36 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: morphing libertarian

You stated merely driving a vehicle made it possession of a deadly weapon. Now you seek to qualify it.


83 posted on 05/27/2014 11:20:24 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
She had the opportunity to exit the vehicle. Wonder why she didn’t?

Oh... I dunno... Fear of being shot by the police? Or maybe fear of getting out of a vehicle that hasn't completely come to a stop?

84 posted on 05/27/2014 11:20:57 AM PDT by bayliving
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To: bayliving

The kid driving was stupid but the cops didn’t need to start a high speed chase; the kids weren’t in the act of committing a violent crime or anything.


85 posted on 05/27/2014 11:21:11 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

I know. I agree with you.


86 posted on 05/27/2014 11:24:22 AM PDT by bayliving
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To: bayliving

I can generally understand the fear of being shot. However, when I imagine myself in such situation (which wouldn’t happen because I’ll pull my weapon and demand that the driver let me the hell out), I think it would be fairly easy to indicate to the officer pounding on my window that I needed help and wanted to get out.

JMHO.


87 posted on 05/27/2014 11:24:48 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: fwdude

You WORKED vs worked? As opposed to VACATIONED?

I guess it comes down to the fact too many people and dogs are getting shot. It keeps getting worse and us CIVILIANS are told not to worry our pretty little heads about it, that we don’t UNDERSTAND because we aren’t COPS.

I’m a radical who thinks law enforcement works for the people. That the power in this country comes from the people and the PEOPLE need to stand up and hold our law enforcement RESPONSIBLE.


88 posted on 05/27/2014 11:25:20 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Rusty0604

Agreed.


89 posted on 05/27/2014 11:25:40 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I think it would be fairly easy to indicate to the officer pounding on my window that I needed help and wanted to get out.

You ever seen how cops are during a high speed chase? I seriously doubt that there were any cops there that were calm enough to be able to see that she was afraid and wanted to get out. Most cops are so hyped up and angry that you ran that your a$$ is going to get kicked whether you're guilty or not.

90 posted on 05/27/2014 11:31:53 AM PDT by bayliving
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To: driftdiver

I absolutely agree with that! We the people MUST work to hold irrational cops to the laws. This was not a case of irrational behavior by law enforcement, however. The rash of cops shooting people’s pets is a sign of a sick wing of society. If we the people do not prosecute such irrational behavior then it will continue to infect the institutions of law enforcement. An attacking pitbull is one thing. The puppies in a back yard is quite another.


91 posted on 05/27/2014 11:32:19 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I have long been an advocate of using lethal force to stop the use of criminal deadly force.


92 posted on 05/27/2014 11:32:57 AM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: driftdiver
I’m a radical who thinks law enforcement works for the people. That the power in this country comes from the people and the PEOPLE need to stand up and hold our law enforcement RESPONSIBLE.

For what? They're only enforcing laws written by the people's elected representatives.

93 posted on 05/27/2014 11:34:41 AM PDT by bruoz
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To: driftdiver

I agree with you. The only attitude I’m condemning is those who hold the entire function of law enforcement in contempt. And there are demonstrably plenty of those on this website. I have no idea who they expect to enforce duly enacted laws approved by communities by the people. If there is no enforcement, the laws have no effect and might as well be repealed. And in case you think I am talking about intrusive laws such as “healthcare,” “hate-crimes,” etc., I am talking about basic property rights and civil society laws, such as theft, assault and community obscenity.

There were very few law enforcement incidences of the type that are making the news lately when I was in the profession, and it is tragic that these incidences have been escalating, and officers should be held accountable for their misconduct, without a doubt. But to reflexively condemn the entire function because of these is just plain ignorant.


94 posted on 05/27/2014 11:36:08 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: MHGinTN

So what of the rights of the passenger? I guess it was justified to kill her too. You know... Just in case.


95 posted on 05/27/2014 11:36:46 AM PDT by bayliving
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To: BuckeyeTexan

The drivers of the car weren’t armed

Isn’t the car the weapon in this case?


96 posted on 05/27/2014 11:37:54 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Yes, what you said.


97 posted on 05/27/2014 11:39:07 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

This ruling is a clarifier. The option to shoot was reasonable given the circumstances. Had cops not shot and innocents had been killed, we’d be up in arms over the wimpy response.


98 posted on 05/27/2014 11:46:10 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

FTA:

“The drivers of the car weren’t armed and were killed as a result of the firing, leading many to argue the use of force by the police squad was excessive.”

BS!! They were armed with a 4,000 pound projectile, a weapon far more dangerous than most guns, just as St.Trayvon of the Skittles (SBUH) was armed with his fists and a large slab of concrete.


99 posted on 05/27/2014 11:48:28 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: 1010RD

I guess it was impossible to shoot the tires? Much easier to kill the occupants.


100 posted on 05/27/2014 11:50:46 AM PDT by bayliving
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