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Missing Malaysia Airlines plane: Scientists question methods and the politics of the MH370 search
Herald Sun ^ | 5-23-14 | IAN McPHEDRAN National Defence Writer

Posted on 05/23/2014 11:09:19 AM PDT by windcliff

UNDERWATER scientists have labelled the search for MH370 a “debacle” and say Prime Minister Tony Abbott was playing politics when he prematurely announced the black box pingers had been found.

The acoustic experts, who do not wish to be identified, said the four crucial signals detected by a US pinger locator were almost certainly not from the missing Malaysian Airlines plane’s black boxes, but from another man-made source.

They insisted that the signals were in the wrong frequency and detected too far apart to be from the boxes.

“As soon as I saw the frequency and the distance between the pings I knew it couldn’t be the aircraft pinger,” one scientist told News Corp Australia.

That conclusion is supported by the lack of success from a detailed search of the area conducted by the US deep sea drone ‘Bluefin 21’.

The unmanned submarine will return to Perth this weekend and will be replaced by a commercial deep water search vehicle.

(Excerpt) Read more at heraldsun.com.au ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: mh370
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

My first thought the hour I heard about the missing flight was Uighur Muslims.

Both China AND Malaysia have dog in the fight to quash that prospect, imho, as it would be most embarrassing for the Chinese leadership and, consequently, the Malay government as well (which also doesn’t want headlines reading “Malay Muslim pilot kills 238 passengers & crew”)...


21 posted on 05/23/2014 1:08:13 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: windcliff

The key to finding the plane is the criminal investigation of the pilot:

Have they found the pilot’s girlfriend[s] yet???

Have they found the person he took the call from just before taking off???

Have they found the person he called as he flew at 5000ft over his hometown city of Penang???

Why are they operating under the illusory assumption that the plane flew until it ran out of fuel???

Why are they refusing to search the waters just south of Indonesia where a pilot would want to ditch a plane and where a boat could pick him up???

Are they waiting until insurance and lawsuit settlements are signed before they put 2 and 2 together???


22 posted on 05/23/2014 1:11:22 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Aren’t there signals that are automatically sent if the plane were to crash? (and these did NOT activate)


23 posted on 05/23/2014 1:51:55 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Excerpt from Engineering and Technology magazine:

Before data analysis by UK satellite operator Inmarsat proved the last contact with the doomed MH370 plane was made from the middle of the southern Indian Ocean, some suggested the aircraft might actually have landed. Why? It’s Emergency Locator Transmitter designed to activate in a crash did not send any message.
The absence of this ‘SOS call’ through the international satellite-based COSPAS SARSAT search and rescue programme has made the hunt for the missing plane extremely complicated.

“These beacons can be triggered either manually, or upon impact or when they come into contact with water,” says Milan Cermack, CEO of Swiss company Applied Space Technology and adjunct professor at the International Space University in France and Memorial University in Canada.

“These beacons are equipped with their own batteries and shouldn’t be affected by any sort of power failure in the aircraft. However, once they sink completely, the water blocks the signal transmission. There were cases in the past when a helicopter or an airplane simply sank like a stone and the beacon didn’t have a chance to activate,” says Cermack, who has extensive experience with search and rescue operations ...

- From http://eandt.theiet.org/magazine/2014/03/flight-mh370-emergency.cfm


24 posted on 05/23/2014 1:56:47 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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25 posted on 05/23/2014 2:01:17 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Don Corleone

will we ever know ?


26 posted on 05/23/2014 2:52:51 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: Triple

Yep —

There were 4 ELTs on that plane. The failure rate is 16% — which means that at the least 3 or the 4 should have activated if it crashed — but not one did.


27 posted on 05/23/2014 3:00:01 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: grania

I don’t think it disappeared. I originally believed it had landed in Pakistan or Iran. But too much time has gone by and the Arabs can’t keep a secret like that for long. It would have gotten out by now.

Now I believe either the plane was shot down by somebody’s military and they are covering it up or its sitting in a hangar on Diego Garcia and we have it for reasons I’m not sure of. There have been a few theories.

I sincerely doubt that plane is at the bottom of the Indian Ocean.


28 posted on 05/23/2014 4:42:14 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Don Corleone
This thing stinks to high heaven of cover-up for some as yet unknown political reason. If I had to bet I’d bet the present administration is up to its hips in it.

Makes one wonder if the deal was part of a sting and the gov't hosed it and destroyed the plane instead of capturing it.

29 posted on 05/24/2014 2:26:49 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: windcliff

CNN, known for its obsessive coverage of the plane, reported last week that two of the freqs heard were around 24kH and the other two 33kH. The transponder is 37.5kH. Someone tried to make the case that water and depth distorted the signals.

Strength and tone could be distorted, but the freq would remain the same; and in any case, the sounds would have originated at only one location, not four locations separated by miles.

As far as I’m aware, no other cable news out let has reported on this specific story. The Herald Sun story is the first mention of this ‘slight problem’.

It has become obvious that this whole affair stinks. All those searching for the plane would have been aware that the sounds heard were not the plane’s, and, because they were told to do so by political leaders, went along with the farce.

At some point since the plane was reported missing, I heard that Inmarsat uses code from an unnamed third party. This was given as a reason not to make the data public as it would reveal propitiatory information.

Who is that third party? Unknown.

I am beginning to believe the Inmarsat raw data is made up as well - which would explain a lot of the reluctance to give it up.


30 posted on 05/24/2014 6:22:05 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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