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To: Monorprise

We need to find a way to advance conservatism, and right now the dagger directed at it’s heart, is libertarianism.

Rinosim (weak on social issues) and libertarianism (radically left wing on social issues) share a common enemy, Christianity, and the conservatives, and they have discovered each other, and are melding together as a fresh new coalition with a fresh new vocabulary, and a fresh new argumentative approach to overcome conservatism.

I don’t have any good answers on how to lead a national fight, but I know that we better get tuned in better into what politicians are truly saying when they start describing themselves as “libertarian” and that we need to “temporarily put social issues on the back burner”, or that they are strong supporters of “liberty”, without telling us what they mean by that word when they use it in place of describing their support for social conservatism.

Even on some threads here, we are having trouble finding our footing and approach and language to deal with libertarians support of the gay agenda, and their calls for “less emphasis” on social issues, or for “putting them off” for a while, and dealing with the language of promoting the homosexual agenda with words like “liberty, “statists”, and so on.

The “government out of marriage” chant, is one they created, even though they are anti-God and it is meaningless, and has nothing to do with reality and politics, but it does throw more mud into the discussion, and as a diversion it works especially well on some devout Christians who haven’t thought that slogan through, as it relates to defeating the democrat party in a real life political battle, to preserve marriage in America.


56 posted on 05/20/2014 5:04:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

Washington is usurping our right to govern yourself locally in every state every day. We can’t stop Federal Employees in black robes from issuing edict, all we can do is fight to get politicians who ignore those edicts and attack those usurpation. But as you know good and well Washington has us all in a prison, and we can only go so far before they march in an army to rape us into submission to their tyrannic edicts.

The truth is, Washington in every vital social and economic respect is more a unbounded Government then ever it was, and we have no room to maneuver on social issues. The biggest reason why is that it’s lawless employees in black robes practice the most authoritarian form of tyranny in their usually radical pronouncements of new law supposedly “Discovered” in a 200 year old Constitution where it was never written, imagined, or practiced before.

We have spent 30 years trying to undo this lawless madness thou better appointments only to have it pounded back down upon us twice as authoritarian as before. “The system” isent working, and nether is our best attempts to fix it over decades.

I don’t see any non-revolutionary options. Short of Revolution which I fear we haven’t the strength to carry out, I don’t see any hope for a lawfully government respectful of the limit’s of nature’s God.

I do however believe that if there is to be a future it will be in our own offspring and family adhering steadfastly to those laws and limits. When the roman empire fell, and there was no law of any merit it was these values which preserved Christendom thou the ages until the renisants.

Now maybe your right about Social Conservatism, and libertarians(At least some of them). I don’t know.

I do know and acknowledge that we are in a great need for Socially conservative values. That our culture is falling apart as our civilization spins towards sodomy and self-destruction.


58 posted on 05/20/2014 5:32:35 PM PDT by Monorprise
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