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Obamacare is a government medical system.

What are the models for it?

Certainly not some brilliant creation Obama pulled out of his community organizing experience. He shows no talent at coming up with ideas to take care of others. I doubt he did any work worth anything that would provide him with ability to come up with a great system.

The model is socialized medicine. And it’s what his minions came up with. Totally unmotivated to do anything of worth, while he was playing golf and fitting his bike helmet.

Military medicine is socialized medicine. The VA is very similar, and it depends on people caring for and about the vets.

Many of the doctors and nurses in both systems are wonderful. May can get away with not being so.

The problem here is in administration. They are told from Washington to decrease patient load and they are rewarded for doing so.

The advantage the VA and DOD med systems have over Euro style systems is that they have medical personnel educated in a privately competitive market. DOD has enough resources to afford proper medical preparation and to pay for these professionals.

What people see is that the military medical system is bad because it’s military.

No. Our military is the best in the world. We have the best pilots in the world. Parts of the military medical system work very well. So what’s wrong with the VA?

It’s the system that is expected to work which is designed for numbers. Caregivers try to work around it and within it, but when the system is designed to decrease resource utilization, patient care is a low priority.

And death panels are very definitely a part of that. Can we call it that? No. WE make fun of Sarah Palin for her common sense and correct assertion, but that doesn’t get rid of the fact that there are death panels. And we are the abortion loving country, which elects high government officials under the guise that they take care of women, by allowing them to kill their babies. 54 million so far.

These are well trained and educated people taking care of the vets, whom they and we all care about.

Obamacare is the same type of system. The difference between obamacare, and it’s coming, omits the private sector, it saps individual resources, it destroys the insurance industry and it will not pay for nor even have the capacity to pay for proper education of medical providers.

Does anyone think that hospital administrators will not be under the instruction to reduce patient load?

Assuming that, how will they do so? There will be such a serious reduction in caregivers, and even compared with the VA, there will be many less caregivers, that healing people and getting them off the rosters that way will be a non entity.

Administrators will care about patients in that system so much less than VA personnel care about their patient population.

Then you bring in those who take without giving back, most particular to the US population and the opposite of Vets.
they alone will sap the system before it gets off the ground, which it cannot, because it was designed by unmotivated bureaucrats who can’t even put together a website, let alone the VA system which has multiple entities including well constructed buildings, hardened facilities.

If the government had taken over the privatization of the school system, as they certainly have the medical system, and read this in two years when either some savior has come in to repeal it, or we are all paying $3,000 per month for the privilege of seeing some PA once a year in a decrepit building somewhere far off, then school vouchers would not be discussed. There would be no charter nor private schools.