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Scheme to bypass Electoral College quietly advances
wnd.com ^ | 5/15/2014 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 05/15/2014 5:59:15 AM PDT by rktman

With little fanfare and nearly no national media attention, the National Popular Vote effort is now 61 percent of the way toward its goal of legally bypassing the Electoral College established in the U.S. Constitution.

Last month, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed the National Popular Vote, or NPV, bill, making his state the 11th jurisdiction to enact the plan. With the passage of the bill, the interstate compact now has 61 percent of the 270 electoral votes needed to put it into effect.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cheats; demokkkrats; electoralcollege; electoralvote; electoralvotes; liars; nationalpopularvote; thieves
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Geez. How come we (like I ever watch them)hear about this on nbcabccbscnnmsnbchnntodayshowgoodmorningamericatheview60minutes etc?

Stay vigilant my friends. Stay very vigilant. If this gets through, the expiration date on this experiment will pop up real quick.

1 posted on 05/15/2014 5:59:15 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

There are few things that democrats enjoy more than finding sleazy ways to bypass provisions of the US Constitution.


2 posted on 05/15/2014 6:01:57 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Malaysia Flight MH370 Black Box signals reported in Bermuda Triangle)
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To: Iron Munro

That’s because, to date, so few of them have been shot while doing it.


3 posted on 05/15/2014 6:02:57 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Shoot cops that shoot dogs.)
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To: rktman

The demoncrats control the states with the largest populations. Get the picture?


4 posted on 05/15/2014 6:05:21 AM PDT by macglencoe (You see what the left hand is doing, but you should be watching the right hand.)
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To: rktman

And never assume the democrats have overlooked the possibility of losing under their system. When they passed it in one house of the Michigan legislature some years ago, an opt out was written into the bill just in case.

However its also important to note that plenty of republicans are quietly backing this crap.


5 posted on 05/15/2014 6:08:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

republicans, as we know, are not necessarily conservatives now that they’ve discovered the money train.


6 posted on 05/15/2014 6:09:51 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: rktman

This will melt like a snowball in the Texas sun. does anyone really believe NY, Illinois or california will award their EVs to a republican that ‘wins’ the popular vote?


7 posted on 05/15/2014 6:14:59 AM PDT by wny
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To: rktman
Aside from New York, other states that already signed up are the heavily blue states of Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Washington, Vermont, California and Rhode Island. The District of Columbia also has joined the pact.

All indigo-blue states.

The red states/flyover states would have to be nuts to ever sign on to this. (My only explanation as to why they continue to pursue it is that they fear a repeat of 2000 in a close election, and want to be able to use it to delegitimize the electoral winner. This was designed to give small states power. I was seriously concerned that it was going to flip the other way in 2012 -- Obama winning electorally, but not the popular vote -- but that didn't happen. Enough conservative voters just stayed away from that election.)

8 posted on 05/15/2014 6:17:27 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: rktman

Technically, once they get that magic number, they’ll have way more than they need. If they pull something like that, I would hazard a guess that a bunch of normal states would no longer have electoral votes :p


9 posted on 05/15/2014 6:19:30 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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This will last until the voters of a state like California or New York are told that they must switch their electoral votes to a Republican candidate because he carried the "flyovers" and won the national popular vote.

Same carries the other way for any conservative state that is stupid enough to sign up initially.

It's stupid people disenfranchising themselves, but they'll have to be hit with the hammer to realize what they signed up for.

10 posted on 05/15/2014 6:20:32 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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People around here sure don't like hearing it but Fred Thompson is one of those who support it.

(video) Fred Thompson endorses National Popular Vote

Also Mentions Senator Coburn in attendance. (Don't know if he was supporting or just listening)
11 posted on 05/15/2014 6:21:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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Dear Lord:

PLEASE grant me my petition that should this thing ever pass, in our very next Presidential election, let the CONSERVATIVE win the popular vote while the DEMOCRAT eeks out an electoral win.

Watching them squirm and spin and try to weasel out of this will be the very most fun I will likely ever have with my pants on.

Thanks again, and have a nice day!


12 posted on 05/15/2014 6:30:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rktman; SgtBob; Chode
Ballot Box

Jury Box

Cartridge Box

Gallows

13 posted on 05/15/2014 6:30:43 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: rktman
I can't believe this would be upheld as constitutional if challenged. The Constitution (a quaint old concept I know) guarantees a republican form of government. Allowing the electoral votes of a given state to be determined by voters in other states violates that guarantee.
14 posted on 05/15/2014 6:31:49 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: rktman

How does a petition over-rule the Constitution?


15 posted on 05/15/2014 6:37:59 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: rktman

If Republicans can take over some of these states, we need to REPEAL THESE LAWS.

What states currently have these horrible statutes?


16 posted on 05/15/2014 6:44:21 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: rktman

To bypass the Electoral College is to give urban areas complete control of who wins the presidency. And that then leads to anarchy.


17 posted on 05/15/2014 6:49:28 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
The Constitution (a quaint old concept I know) guarantees a republican form of government

The Constitution allows the States to apportion thier EV in any manner they see fit. The state legislatures are voting to merely give all their EV to the candidate with the highest popular vote. So its doable...

18 posted on 05/15/2014 6:55:28 AM PDT by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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To: rktman
Watch

This is an interesting take on the popular vote.

19 posted on 05/15/2014 7:02:45 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: Iron Munro
The Constitution requires that compacts between States have to be approved by Congress. That won't happen.

A popular vote scheme would be vulnerable to fraud. Currently we have a decennial census to determine states' populations and assign electoral votes accordingly (along with senators). Since the Constitution recognizes the States power to control the election process a state wishing to commit fraud would simply create millions of multiple voter registrations and stuff the ballot boxes to overwhelm the national numbers. Under the current system states can commit all the fraud they can get away with but the damage is limited by the set number of electoral votes allocated to each state.

If you thought the Florida recount process was a circus, imagine if every state had to do a recount to make every vote count. Imagine how many additional ballot boxes would be uncovered.

20 posted on 05/15/2014 7:05:02 AM PDT by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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