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You have to wonder..............is he a Article 2 Section 1 natural-born Citizen eligible to be president in the eyes of the framers?
1 posted on 05/12/2014 8:52:33 AM PDT by Sam Troy
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I am an “original intent” kinda guy. The main reason is that I believe that our framers and founders were inspired by God. The Constitution is such an incredible document that God MUST have had a hand in it. He has blessed our nation (at least until now).

I can’t say the same for our courts and judges.

After reading the essay: The Constitutional Meaning Of “Natural Born Citizen” (see post #7 above), you will have to honestly admit that what the Constitution means by “Natural Born Citizen”, is “physically born IN the United States by TWO citizen parents.”

Like I have said before, If you were born in the contiguous United States (48) by two citizen parents who were U.S. citizens at the time of your birth, you are definitely a “Natural Born Citizen”.

At this time it is still possible to have been born in Alaska and Hawaii before they were states. Territories and possessions have various different citizenship laws. If you were not born in the lower 48, your NBC status becomes a “maybe”, and requires additional research.

Your NBC status is determined at the second of your birth. Where are you? What is the citizenship of your parentS?


27 posted on 05/12/2014 9:49:02 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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He was born in Miami FL. He is a natural born citizen. He is over 43 years of age. He is also at least as qualified as Obama.

I would prefer him to be in a cabinet position in a Republican Administration. Even a VP post. I really feel we need a person with executive experience. A governor like Jindal, Perry, or Scott Walker. They have been able to lead in difficult times and show success.

28 posted on 05/12/2014 9:49:07 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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I am an “original intent” kinda guy. The main reason is that I believe that our framers and founders were inspired by God. The Constitution is such an incredible document that God MUST have had a hand in it. He has blessed our nation (at least until now).

I can’t say the same for our courts and judges.

After reading the essay: The Constitutional Meaning Of “Natural Born Citizen” (see post #7 above), you will have to honestly admit that what the Constitution means by “Natural Born Citizen”, is “physically born IN the United States by TWO citizen parents.”

Like I have said before, If you were born in the contiguous United States (48) by two citizen parents who were U.S. citizens at the time of your birth, you are definitely a “Natural Born Citizen”.

At this time it is still possible to have been born in Alaska and Hawaii before they were states. Territories and possessions have various different citizenship laws. If you were not born in the lower 48, your NBC status becomes a “maybe”, and requires additional research.

Your NBC status is determined at the second of your birth. Where are you? What is the citizenship of your parentS?


29 posted on 05/12/2014 9:49:16 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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No, you are not. At best, President of a lemonade stand.


30 posted on 05/12/2014 9:50:12 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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The question is what — who’s vision is the one that our party wants to follow?

No, "whose" vision.

But who expects a news organization to know English?

34 posted on 05/12/2014 10:03:37 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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But Is He Constitutionally Eligible?

Of course. He's older than 35 isn't he? That is the only requirement.

Oh, but wait! Given that the various courts have held that secretaries of State do not have the responsibility to insure compliance with Article II, then he doesn't even have to meet that requirement.

In other words, everyone is eligibile. Mao Tse Tung is eligible. Adolph Hitler is Eligible. It doesn't matter where you're born, or who your parents are, because THERE ARE NO REQUIREMENTS.

In 2016, I'm going to get behind the campaign of Vladimir Putin. He may be a totalitarian oligarch, but the man has balls, so in that regard he would make a better President than this current sap.

36 posted on 05/12/2014 10:19:24 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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No, he is not. Both parents were Cuban nationals when he was born. Plus, he sucks on illegal immigration.

No freaking way. He’s not courageous or principled enough, either. Nope, nada, no way, never, not, non, nyet, nein, etc.


38 posted on 05/12/2014 10:38:29 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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at birth, he was a US citizen by virtue of being born on US soil... and Cuban by being born to two Cuban citizens

a natural born citizen is a citizen naturally, as there are no alternatives.

since he had two options, he’s native born but not natural born (like myself)


50 posted on 05/12/2014 2:18:42 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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The title of the chapter of the INA that declares Rubio a Citizen at birth, is CHAPTER 1 -- NATIONALITY AT BIRTH AND BY COLLECTIVE NATURALIZATION

"Collective Naturalization" - that is the process in which Rubio became a US Citizen.

Naturalization is not aways a process that ends in raising a hand, and swearing fealty to the United States, it means acquiring Citizenship via written laws of the state. That can be the case, as described in chapter 2 of the INA CHAPTER 2 -- NATIONALITY THROUGH NATURALIZATION . Or, one can fall into one of the classes outlined in Chapter 1, and be "collectively naturalized" at birth.

Anyone who is a naturalized Citizen, can not be a 'Natural Born Citizen', as by definition, natural born citizens require no man made laws to acquire their citizenship. Marco Rubio, is a naturalized US Citizen through collective naturalization, via ACT301 under CHAPTER 2 -- NATIONALITY THROUGH NATURALIZATION of the INA. Therefore he is not a Natural Born Citizen, and not eligible to hold the office of President.
53 posted on 05/12/2014 3:38:03 PM PDT by MMaschin
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No he is not eligible. Just like Barack O, both his parents were not American Citizens. There are many things about barry Satorroh(sp?) that are different. His lack of a valid SS card and # and the fa ct that BO was a British Citizen at birth. But Mario is not a Natural Born Citizen as the Supremem Court and the framers defined it.


59 posted on 05/16/2014 11:52:58 AM PDT by RichardMoore (There is only one issue- Life: dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
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