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Why Lois Lerner Should Be Granted Immunity
National Review ^ | 5-10-2014 | Andrew C. McCarthy - Commentary

Posted on 05/10/2014 6:52:48 PM PDT by smoothsailing

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To: MtnClimber

She should be water boarded.


21 posted on 05/10/2014 7:33:09 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: tumblindice
thank you...
22 posted on 05/10/2014 7:34:00 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: smoothsailing
ABSOLUTELY NOT ! ! !
23 posted on 05/10/2014 7:34:22 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: smoothsailing

Lerner and her attorneys have not offered up a proffer. You can’t give somebody immunity without a proffer. I mean you can, but it’s stupid to grant immunity before you know what you’re getting. The proverbial pig in a poke.

What they should do is strip away her limited IRS immunity and allow her to be subject to Civil Suits from the organizations she stomped on.

The House should start offering up bills that address the IRS immunity and the intrinsic gag order that supposedly keeps them protected from divulging their sources. They should have one every Tuesday morning for Reid to kill then keep pointing at the Liberal Conspiracy to suppress evidence and impede investigations.


24 posted on 05/10/2014 7:37:39 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: usconservative

That’s why she needs to submit a proffer for immunity. No proffer, no immunity. It’s pretty standard.

If she refuses to submit a proffer it just tells me she’s going to take the full fall while the administration impedes any punishment.


25 posted on 05/10/2014 7:39:31 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: smoothsailing
No immunity.
How about this deal: 100 years in jail minus one year for each name she gives that leads to another conviction.

26 posted on 05/10/2014 7:40:21 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Chode

No prob, Chode. This stuff is confusing for the average Joe.
It’s an excellent point.
And the `movers and shakers’ should think that we know what they’re doing.


27 posted on 05/10/2014 7:44:13 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Usagi_yo

Thanks for the post. I wasn’t aware of the IRS immunity and gag order angle to this. That’s certainly worth pursuing, I wonder if they will.


28 posted on 05/10/2014 7:45:27 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Usagi_yo
I have no idea if you're a lawyer or not (sounds like you are ...) I'd hope that SOMEONE in the Stupid Party (R) leadership thinks like you do on this topic. Yes, they should strip away her limited immunity (I didn't know she had that) and let those who were screwed over by her sue the crap outta her.

That would certainly send a LOUD message.

29 posted on 05/10/2014 7:49:25 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: PGalt

Prosecuting Lois Lerner for contempt of Congress is like prosecuting Adolph Eichmann for the Holocost. It’s just a case of going after a fanatical mid-level functionary for the atrocities that were ordered by his or her superiors. The national interest is to get the superiors. Andy is right. Give her immunity, squeeze her HARD, and get the Mahdi and his accomplices, just like getting Hitler, Himmler, and the rest of the Nazi subhuman criminals.


30 posted on 05/10/2014 7:51:32 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: smoothsailing
As things stand right now, the congressional investigation is going nowhere.

Apparently this article was written prior to the IRS stating it would finally release all the requested emails.

31 posted on 05/10/2014 8:07:04 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape
That they hadn't deleted. Their computers need to be impounded and gone through be fornistic experts.
32 posted on 05/10/2014 8:13:47 PM PDT by sport
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To: smoothsailing

I have been thinking this myself for a while.

It would have been fantastic to have been able to answer her initial taking of the 5th by saying...

“OK, we thought you might say that so we are giving you immunity. Now you are going to answer our questions...”

Or maybe taking a vote of the committee on it right then. Interesting to think of how Mr. Cummings would have voted on that.

Her jaw would have dropped right then as she could not possibly have anticipated actually having to testify. Facing reality is not something liberals take well.


33 posted on 05/10/2014 8:53:09 PM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: MtnClimber

True the house can arrest her.
Giving immunity guaranties she will never tell the truth, why would she? She would face no jail time or even the possibility of treason charges, which it appears to me she could well be charged with, along with abuse of power, and in the case private property was seized looks like theft by unlawful taking, if the seizure resulted from a political investigation. F*(k her, and break one off in her arrogant butt.


34 posted on 05/10/2014 9:17:36 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

“Giving immunity guaranties she will never tell the truth, why would she?”

Because her end of the deal would be to cooperate fully. If she were to mislead or omit, and they could prove it, she would be prison-bound.

If they had the stones to do so....


35 posted on 05/10/2014 9:35:41 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Bshaw

I’d grant her immunity in a NY minute if she told us everything, including names, upfront. No names, no immunity. Connect the dots, and she gets immunity. Tell us what you know upfront, and if it meets a predetermined, mutually agreed upon threshold and passes the smell test (I.e. credibility and verifiabilty), you’re free for life. If not, we’re going to f*****g hound you for life and make you so f*****g miserable you’ll wish you were dead.

How’s that for an immunity agreement?


36 posted on 05/10/2014 9:47:31 PM PDT by huckfillary
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To: smoothsailing

Instead of Immunity, I would be in favor of anything that will unhinge the Obama Regime. It is a ticking bomb scenario where each second that goes by is a second closer to the destruction of America’s Constitution and America. I think this justifies that Lois Lerner should be Waterboarded for the all information she has.


37 posted on 05/10/2014 10:01:02 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I don’t even want to ask what the Congressional Jail is like. What? No room service? Or no linen napkins.


38 posted on 05/10/2014 10:01:53 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Governor Scott Walker 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: smoothsailing

These DC hacks, just like the writer of this article doesn’t want to
hold anyone accountable for their criminal actions, they just want to
use this as a campaign tool. Same old same old from these hacks.

Only jail time will send the right message to IRS employees who break
the law. Sending more GOP hacks to congress won’t stop this. Only jail time for
IRS employees will.


39 posted on 05/10/2014 10:05:32 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Baynative

See Post #37. You were first to call for Waterboarding. I second that call. Because it is in defense of our Constitution, that internationally decreed illegal procedure would not apply. We are fighting for our liberty and the Republican held Congress should join in that fight.

Waterboard her.


40 posted on 05/10/2014 10:07:27 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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