[Seizethecarp]

“In all fairness, Carp, neither did we find out the last time how the universe was due to be shattered by the CCP ... nor the time before that.”

I disagree. Arpaio DID shatter the universe with proof that both the BC and selective service documents were cut and pasted (pdf layer evidence was muddy, imo) and Barry’s team did the “look squirrel” routine with the Bin Laden raid and the complicit MSM attacked Arpaio rather than Barry’s faked BC. Zullo claims that a Daubert-certified expert, Reed Hayes, has affirmed in a sealed court filing that Barry’s BC is forged and claims that even further as yet undisclosed evidence has been found that makes that conclusion even more irrefutable...to be revealed in a 2nd presser AFTER Arpaio does a 1st presser revealing the criminal charges against Barry.

So now the ball is back in Arpaio’s court to up the ante on producing the even more damning evidence of crimes by Barry, which remains to be seen. That is my take.

[Kenny Bunk]

So now the ball is back in Arpaio’s court to up the ante on producing the even more damning evidence of crimes by Barry, which remains to be seen.

With all due respect to Sheriff Joe, and to yourself, IMNVHO, what is needed here is NOT MORE evidence. What is needed is a venue in which the evidence will be evaluated and accepted for legal action.

Furthermore, this seemingly endless spate of announced "bombshell" and "earth-shattering" disclosures has not only damaged the CCP's credibility, it has had negative consequences for those (myself included) who have found the evidence genuine and convincing.

[woofie]

Seize

I haven’t been following stuff about Obama’s BC all that closely for some time so I have no idea how much Sheriff Joe hyped the last evidence he released

In general the people who are pushing all the BC stuff seem pretty marginal at best.

In terms of politics. I think Obama has played the Birther stuff brilliantly so far.
He has belittled any and all and he had a lot of belittling material to work with.

Sheriff Joe is clearly amongst the belittled

At the same time there is a growing unease about Obama , (in which the majority now see O as a rank amateur who lies constantly for his own good)

The Birther stuff feeds into the perception that O is a pathological liar and it cannot help any leader to have such a large portion of the public questioning everything ....even his birth narrative.

I do not think any evidence of any kind will find its way into the legal system

But whatever evidence Sheriff Joe will unveil can greatly affect the culture which will ultimately shape his presidency.

Sheriff Joe’s last evidence was dry and technical and was ready made for a debate amongst experts. I think that is why it was a dud (if a dud it was)

The evidence I think that is needed and that may affect things is :

another BC with provenance that contradicts the story Obama has told

Obamas school records showing he was a foreign student

Paperwork showing shenanigan’s surrounding his SS # that is hard to dismiss

The same sort of paperwork that involves his draft records.

I think for Obama to run for President he had to do a lot of cleaning of his past.

Clinton had the same problem ...thus the Bimbo Brigade and the Hillary/ Bill confessional on 60 Minutes.

Lets just hope that the good Sheriff has found clear evidence of that clean up that the average person can understand

[4Zoltan]

“a Daubert-certified expert, Reed Hayes, has affirmed in a sealed court filing that Barry’s BC is forged”

What court was this filed in? I know Zullo filed an affidavit in Alabama before the Supreme Court but IIRC Hayes report was not submitted with it. I know Gallups keeps referring to it as a sealed affidavit but IMO that’s just his usual exaggeration.

[Kenny Bunk]

Let's re-focus our efforts on

PROGRAM

PLAN

LEADERS

We'll be rid of Obama soon. What do we do in the meantime to control him? What's the plan for repairing the damage? Who's going to lead? How do we go forward?

Focus. The Constitution needs a little work.
No. 1: The Senate has become a disgrace. Selection of Senators must be returned to the control of the States by repeal of the 17th Amendment, which is among the worst mistakes made in our history.

Since it would be absurd to imagine that Congress, including the Senate, would correct itself, we need that Convention of the States espoused by among others, Mark Levin and Sarah Palin.

Obama is terrible. OK. But that's no reason to devote ourselves to proving the unprovable in venues that refuse the case. The Republic hasn't the luxury of time for that.