[don-o]

I know I’m outnumbered on this thread. I don’t care.

I'm with you. The Palin adoration will never intimidate me. I mostly leave it alone. But, I figured Dreher would get slimed. He's a good man and a good thinker / writer.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I'm with you. The deliberate (directly intended, planned, targeted) infliction of severe pain or fear on any creature, human or animal, as an end in itself or as a means to an end, is morally wrong, and to compare it even remotely or ironically to Baptism, is a sacrilege.

I voted McCain-Palin in 2008 because of Palin (couldn't stand McCain then, and cant stand him now). She gets off a few good lines --- at longer and longer intervals --- but for the most part, she offers us neither good policy nor good judgment.

She has been a huge disappointment.